yarddog73 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: We always win in front of a pitiful Tuesday night crowd..... All 123 of them a couple of Tuesdays ago - lucky bastards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I'm going to this. It's my first match since, erm, Peterborough at home last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozman Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 There's an interview with Wellens on the official site looking forward to tomorrow's game. You can tell he's genuinely gutted for Shez. Says he told the players that they let him down. There will be changes to the team tomorrow and to the way we play. Mclaiughlin's injury is a bad one, he'll be out for minimum 2 months. None of the other injured players are fit enough to come back in the squad. Sounds like he is definitely only in the post temporarily. He mentions trying to have a few more points on the board by the time a new manager comes in, in 2, 3, or 4 games time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Absolutely criminal to have a match on the same evening as Dr Foster. Should have been put back a couple of weeks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 On 24/09/2017 at 5:34 PM, BP1960 said: Have a feeling Fane will be preferred to Queensy in a 4-1-3-2. That's exactly what I've been coming up with when trying to get our front two and middle three on the pitch. Placide/Ruddy 4. Wilson Clarke Gerrard/Edmunson Hunt 1. Any of our holding midfielders 3. Gardner Byrne Bryan 2. Davies Doyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Didn't have a clue we were playing tonight until yesterday evening. Got round to looking at tickets just now. £24 to watch managerless bottom of the league? Nah, you're alright thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 38 minutes ago, NewBlue said: Didn't have a clue we were playing tonight until yesterday evening. Got round to looking at tickets just now. £24 to watch managerless bottom of the league? Nah, you're alright thanks. Every sentence speaks volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 On 24/9/2017 at 8:24 AM, the_mighty_bosh said: Whoever's in charge (and I hope it's Shez) I reckon we should go back to basics and play 4-4-2. Ruddy/Placide Dummigan Clarke Gerrard Hunt Queensy Byrne Bryan Nepomuceno Davies Doyle It's not without it's flaws. I'm far from convinced about any of our keepers. The Clarke and Gerrard partnership clearly lacks mobility but is there anyone else who is fit or able? While Byrne and Bryan are good players I think they might have a tough time in a 2 man midfield. But if Bryan gives Clarke and Gerrard good protection and the full backs work well then we should improve defensively. Which still leaves us with a decent 5 attacking minded players to cause them problems. I have absolutely no idea what you have seen of these two that even remotely justifies a starting spot?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 On 24/9/2017 at 7:10 PM, HarryBosch said: Could work that. I can't see Gevaro being dropped though or Gardner being used so far forward when everything's been set up around him playing deep since pre-season... 4-3-3 would be relatively solid and get us our strongest, most in form 11 on the field in my eyes Placide (or Wilson if he's really so bad) Edmundson/Dummigan (I'd rather keep playing GE and see if he can learn from his mistakes and kick on) Clarke Gerrard Hunt Gardner Byrne Bryan Davies Doyle Gevaro Thing is, he surely meant dropping one of Clarke or Gerrard in his post match comments...? Maybe Brian Wilson in for him? Not sure thats a great idea. We cant keep letting him make 2 mistakes a game, just incase he finally gets it right and only makes 2 mistakes every other game. Hes too weak at the minute, and far too slow off the mark. Got absolutely rinsed all day on Saturday, and for me the reason we got anhialited was because Shez didnt sort that out (whether he had the eprsonnel to do so is a different matter) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, youngen said: I have absolutely no idea what you have seen of these two that even remotely justifies a starting spot?! We haven’t seen Queensy at all really, so impossible to say good OR bad. Nepomuceno would work perfectly well in a 442, or a front 3. He can certainly deliver a very decent cross and has some nice touches. Edited September 26, 2017 by kowenicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, kowenicki said: We haven’t seen Queensy at all really, so impossible to say good OR bad. Nepomuceno would work perfectly well in a 442, or a front 3. He can certainly deliver a very decent cross and has some nice touches. He has one too many nice touches for me. Often gets caught with the ball. Delivered a couple of decent balls, but defensively he is shocking. Not good enough to be in ahead of Gardner, so would play Bryan wide left if you play 4-4-2. Queensy has played 25 minutes, in which he has looked disinterested and off the pace. Would not imagine this changing by throwing him in the deep end. Needs more minutes before being chucked in. Just because he played for Ajax reserves, doesnt automatically make him good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Well, Tony P spent a good 20 minutes chatting to Queensy after training had wound down yesterday, so maybe an indication that he'll be more involved tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Ruddy Dummigan - Clarke - Gerrard - Hunt Bryan Fane - Gardner Byrne Doyle - Davies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, sjk2008 said: Ruddy Dummigan - Clarke - Gerrard - Hunt Bryan Fane - Gardner Byrne Doyle - Davies From wellens interview we're going with Pacey wingers so doubt that will be the team. For me would drop ruddy for placide, Gerrard for Wilson , I know wellens is a fan of banks just hope he doesn't start him. Placide dummigan Clarke Wilson hunt Bryan Tope Byrne Queensy Davies Doyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Hasn't there been an indication that Wellens really doesn't rate Fane? Can't see him starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 hour ago, youngen said: I have absolutely no idea what you have seen of these two that even remotely justifies a starting spot?! In two of the last 3 games Gevaro played on the wing and crossed a ball from said wing onto the head of a striker who proceeded to score a goal. It'll never catch on but I liked it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, bozman said: There's an interview with Wellens on the official site looking forward to tomorrow's game. You can tell he's genuinely gutted for Shez. Says he told the players that they let him down. There will be changes to the team tomorrow and to the way we play. Mclaiughlin's injury is a bad one, he'll be out for minimum 2 months. None of the other injured players are fit enough to come back in the squad. Sounds like he is definitely only in the post temporarily. He mentions trying to have a few more points on the board by the time a new manager comes in, in 2, 3, or 4 games time. He'll know that he has an outside chance of getting the job longer term if he suddenly turns our form around and sends us up the table. Especially if he does so while playing a load of Abdallah's lads and generally licking his arse. I would and I reckon Richie will too. I did once ask a certain former, former, former manager of ours whether Wellens had the makings of a manager one day and the answer was a definitive no. Edited September 26, 2017 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: In two of the last 3 games Gevaro played on the wing and crossed a ball from said wing onto the head of a striker who proceeded to score a goal. It'll never catch on but I liked it.... The only trouble is that we are not playing American football where a player can come on just for specific plays.....otherwise he would not have been the pitch when he was defending embarrassingly in the 2 last games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I'm not sure telling the players it was all their fault was necessarily the best way to start off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, josh_latics said: Hasn't there been an indication that Wellens really doesn't rate Fane? Can't see him starting. Very scathing of him last year on GMR... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 18 minutes ago, adamoafc said: From wellens interview we're going with Pacey wingers so doubt that will be the team. For me would drop ruddy for placide, Gerrard for Wilson , I know wellens is a fan of banks just hope he doesn't start him. Placide dummigan Clarke Wilson hunt Bryan Tope Byrne Queensy Davies Doyle Gerrard isn't the centre back that should be dropped... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 hour ago, youngen said: Not sure thats a great idea. We cant keep letting him make 2 mistakes a game, just incase he finally gets it right and only makes 2 mistakes every other game. Hes too weak at the minute, and far too slow off the mark. Got absolutely rinsed all day on Saturday, and for me the reason we got anhialited was because Shez didnt sort that out (whether he had the eprsonnel to do so is a different matter) Due to unforeseen circumstances that post is no longer relevant..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Gerrard isn't the centre back that should be dropped... have you forgotten that's he looks fat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, deyres42 said: I'm not sure telling the players it was all their fault was necessarily the best way to start off... "We need to get smiles back on their faces so the first thing I did was tell them they're all cunts and it's their fault Shez got sacked" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 He won't drop either of Clarke or Gerrard as he'll want them onside. Edmundson he will drop. I'm not sure he'll ditch the 3 at the back. Main reason being Doyle and Davies are definite starters and 4 at the back would mean he'd have to drop one of Gardner, Byrne or Bryan and I can't see him doing that, nor should he. Unless he puts Bryan in a back 3 with Clarke and Gerard? He'll want to curry favour with Abdallah so I think (and hope) Placide might get a start. Same for Queensy and it's a gamble Wellens can take as he doesn't really have anything to lose. Can he play on the right though? Or can Gevaro? Gevaro will stay in and rightly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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