Stagger Lee Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Shame the Bury game has been cancelled. I'm sure Correa would be a competent manager but given a choice between saving money by getting Wellens and then spending the savings on signing Doyle permanently and some others I know which I would choose. Poor Correa, normally when you come in as a manager the fans are grateful you are not the manager that has just been sacked and fans get behind you. This time he will have to be damned good to win us over if he replaces Wellens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Wonder if we might see a repeat of the last time we had money owners. Quietly impressed by an inexperienced chap, but feel that they want an old hand for experience. Appoint more experienced guy but with inexperienced fella alongside - then in a year move one out and let the other step up. Dowie = Wellens Wadsworth = Pablo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) Didn't think I'd be saying this a week ago, but Wellens deserves a crack at the job on a permanent basis. Would love him to convince TP to be his assistant though, think he has a great impact, both on Wellens and on the players. Think it will be Correa though, with Wellens somewhere in the mix, possibly back to first team coach/reserve coach - similar to where Shez was in the Ronnie Moore days. Edited October 1, 2017 by Latics_Fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Wellens is quoted in the Sunday People saying if he doesn't get the job here, he'll go and look elsewhere for one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Wellens is quoted in the Sunday People saying if he doesn't get the job here, he'll go and look elsewhere for one... Really impressed with him, but he’s getting ahead of himself there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Lee Sinnott said: Wellens is quoted in the Sunday People saying if he doesn't get the job here, he'll go and look elsewhere for one... Sad to hear that because, after catching up on his interviews and the match highlights, he clearly has something about him. But one good week doesn't make his career. If he stays as an assistant or 3rd in command here he'll be able to pick up loads from the new manager. All the while knowing that if the manager fails he would have what it takes to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) It's a shame for Wellens, and maybe the club & us, that there's now no game for two weeks. I suspect Correa will be in place by then. And Wellens might well have left altogether sadly. Had we had a flurry of matches and he'd kept winning you'd think they'd give him the chance or at least that they wouldn't appoint someone new until he lost one or we turned in a poor performance for a draw. As great as it's been, and as impressive as Richie has been in every regard, I can't help thinking that we'd still have won these two games under Shez and that that will ultimately stand as the biggest bollock dropped in all of this... Edited October 1, 2017 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Perimeter West Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: It's a shame for Wellens, and maybe the club & us, that there's now no game for two weeks. I suspect Correa will be in place by then. And Wellens might well have left altogether sadly. Had we had a flurry of matches and he'd kept winning you'd think they'd give him the chance or at least that they wouldn't appoint someone new until he lost one or we turned in a poor performance for a draw. As great as it's been, and as impressive as Richie has been in every regard, I can't help thinking that we'd still have won these two games under Shez and that that will ultimately stand as the biggest bollock dropped in all of this... For one placid wouldn't be playing under shez so no bollocks dropped!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: It's a shame for Wellens, and maybe the club & us, that there's now no game for two weeks. I suspect Correa will be in place by then. And Wellens might well have left altogether sadly. Had we had a flurry of matches and he'd kept winning you'd think they'd give him the chance or at least that they wouldn't appoint someone new until he lost one or we turned in a poor performance for a draw. As great as it's been, and as impressive as Richie has been in every regard, I can't help thinking that we'd still have won these two games under Shez and that that will ultimately stand as the biggest bollock dropped in all of this... We play at Crewe on Tuesday Harry in the Checkatrade, I still expect a strong team on display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, BP1960 said: We play at Crewe on Tuesday Harry in the Checkatrade, I still expect a strong team on display. Like I said, 2 weeks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Latics22 was quite right that Shez put the team together and it was all going in the right direction. Shame he didn't make the tweaks needed in time. There's no doubt it was a difficult time for him, his interviews alone made that clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, leeslover said: Latics22 was quite right that Shez put the team together and it was all going in the right direction. Shame he didn't make the tweaks needed in time. There's no doubt it was a difficult time for him, his interviews alone made that clear I think that court case is/was taking its toll on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Andy Perimeter West said: For one placid wouldn't be playing under shez Yeah, I forgot about that bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Yeah, I forgot about that bit It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that Shez would ave changed keepers after the Rotherham game. We'll never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Had another look at the latest odds on The Sack Race site: Wellens 1/1 - would be happy with him based on interviews and results, at least a short term contract until the end of the season that if if doesn't work then both parties move on. Seedorf 3/1 - again would be happy, but think now that this is a dead story with enough people now denying it. Correa 6/1 - again Ok with this. Never had a "foreign" coach and record is decent. Might not be bad odds either. Stubbs 6/1 - leaves me completely cold. Think this is the worst of the bookies favourites. No, no, and thrice, no for me. Giggs 16/1 - tough one. A world class player, and a big name that would get respect etc and boost the coverage of the club but a heart a red? We learnt to love ex-City Royle didn't we? Davies 20/1 - another that leaves me cold. OK past record but seems a bit tame. A whole host on 25/1 that only a couple I'd be happy with: Wilson - could be put in the same hat as Stubbs etc but have always liked the style of football Danny's teams play. Scholes - read Giggs but added advantage of "maybe" being Latics fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I've heard Ian Wright might be interested. Always loved the club apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, Stagger Lee said: I think that court case is/was taking its toll on him. Could well have been. I don't doubt that other things were as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, leeslover said: Could well have been. I don't doubt that other things were as well. It certainly seemed from his interviews that Shez had lost a bit of heart for this job, he sounded fed up from very early on in the season. Compare that to the attitude and energy Wellens brings, it can’t be underestimated as a reason for our upturn in fortunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Wellens for me please. The performances yesterday and on Tuesday showed what he is about and that interview was inspirational Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 2 hours ago, palmer1 said: I've heard Ian Wright might be interested. Always loved the club apparently. I have concerns about his fashion sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 8 hours ago, leeslover said: Could well have been. I don't doubt that other things were as well. A colleague at work is a big Wednesday fan and pretty well connected at the club and with some of their ex-players. The club had a big 150 anniversary event recently - about a week before Shez left. As part of the event the dignitaries got free drinks vouchers, but not everyone was drinking. Shez spent the event hoovering up as many "free" drinks he could and was absolutely smashed from fairly early on. My contact spoke to him earlier in the night and he said he was feeling pressure of Oldham and the fact that the results were so bad at the moment he was on the verge of losing his job - but he didn't mention anything about issues behind the scenes. Given that the same fella sat next to Shez at Wembley (also when he was a few sheets to the wind) after he left to go Notts Cointy and he was forthcoming about Oldham and lack of funds and SC not being supportive enough - it seems that he does have enough of an ear that he gets information. Later on at the 150 year event - they started pulling ex-managers and players up on stage with some old game footage to talk about some of the clubs achievements. This included Shez talking about scoring the only goal in the League Cup final in the early 1990s....unfortunately by that stage he could barley stand nevermind speak, and there was an embarrassing silence as John seemed to ignore questions and just stand there. Great player and by our standards a successful manager - but not sure that he is best suited to football managements and potentially has some personal issues that he needs to resolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozman Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Scapegoat said: A colleague at work is a big Wednesday fan and pretty well connected at the club and with some of their ex-players. The club had a big 150 anniversary event recently - about a week before Shez left. As part of the event the dignitaries got free drinks vouchers, but not everyone was drinking. Shez spent the event hoovering up as many "free" drinks he could and was absolutely smashed from fairly early on. My contact spoke to him earlier in the night and he said he was feeling pressure of Oldham and the fact that the results were so bad at the moment he was on the verge of losing his job - but he didn't mention anything about issues behind the scenes. Given that the same fella sat next to Shez at Wembley (also when he was a few sheets to the wind) after he left to go Notts Cointy and he was forthcoming about Oldham and lack of funds and SC not being supportive enough - it seems that he does have enough of an ear that he gets information. Later on at the 150 year event - they started pulling ex-managers and players up on stage with some old game footage to talk about some of the clubs achievements. This included Shez talking about scoring the only goal in the League Cup final in the early 1990s....unfortunately by that stage he could barley stand nevermind speak, and there was an embarrassing silence as John seemed to ignore questions and just stand there. Great player and by our standards a successful manager - but not sure that he is best suited to football managements and potentially has some personal issues that he needs to resolve. There was an article in one of the tabloids about this event a couple of weeks ago (can't remember which one). It said something very similar I.e. that Shez took full advantage of the hospitality and was absolutely steaming by the time it was his turn to speak. Consequently he said very little. From what I've heard over the years though, Shez has always liked a drink, during good times and bad. It was obvious from his demeanour this season that something was getting to him and it seemed to be more than just results. I'll always be grateful to him for what he did for the club and hope he finds success in whatever he does in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 34 minutes ago, bozman said: There was an article in one of the tabloids about this event a couple of weeks ago (can't remember which one). It said something very similar I.e. that Shez took full advantage of the hospitality and was absolutely steaming by the time it was his turn to speak. Consequently he said very little. From what I've heard over the years though, Shez has always liked a drink, during good times and bad. It was obvious from his demeanour this season that something was getting to him and it seemed to be more than just results. I'll always be grateful to him for what he did for the club and hope he finds success in whatever he does in the future. He'd like it on our away days then if he likes a slurp or two Johnny Sheridans piss pot army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 8 hours ago, leeslover said: I have concerns about his fashion sense Why don't you tweet him and let him know, he loves constructive feedback I've heard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I'm doing a poll (!) on twitter, pretty overwhelming support. Proves what a good job Richie is doing IMO. Wellens / Seedorf poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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