lookersstandandy Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, kowenicki said: The fact that there is ‘a plan’ that RW must play AL players or get the cones out? Evidentially that’s just plain wrong. I was being flippant..... we don't know 'the plan'..... so it leaves a void for such tomfoolery...... esp when the manager/coach barks on about not getting players he wanted, whether he was allowed to bid for them or not...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 32 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: I was being flippant..... we don't know 'the plan'..... so it leaves a void for such tomfoolery...... esp when the manager/coach barks on about not getting players he wanted, whether he was allowed to bid for them or not...... In which case you are being entitled. He’s been in a week, but even if he’d been in a month I’m not sure telling you his ‘plan’ is top of his to do list. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I doubt many managers got all the players they wanted. Whatever the situation with French Lads etc Wellens should be bigging up the squad we've got and looking to move forward. Try and win instead of making excuses for losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, kowenicki said: In which case you are being entitled. He’s been in a week, but even if he’d been in a month I’m not sure telling you his ‘plan’ is top of his to do list. ? That maybe.... but if it would take little time / effort to set out the basic tenets of said plan, such that we can understand the approach..... and therefore maybe why Wellens couldn't have Devante Cole or Matt Mills on this occasion and must instead work with his left back from Nantes and the Duck lad up front - at least until Doyle is fit - then I don't see why he can't do that..... He [Mr. Lemsagam] must surely understand that being a former Agent will bring with it certain concerns about his motives.... and spending a little bit of time kom-yoo-ni-kating might not be a bad idea. He's not Jack Walker, buying his childhood club, an Oligarch or a Sheikh..... why on earth would a Moroccan former football Agent residing in Dubai want to own Latics? Edited February 1, 2018 by lookersstandandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: He's not Jack Walker, buying his childhood club, an Oligarch or a Sheikh..... why on earth would a Moroccan former football Agent residing in Dubai want to own Latics? Oh to find somebody who could answer this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 hours ago, lookersstandandy said: ....why is my pointing out, that our uncertainty [and my unease] over 'the plan'..... is tantamount to not giving him a chance...? Please stop doing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 41 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: That maybe.... but if it would take little time / effort to set out the basic tenets of said plan, such that we can understand the approach..... and therefore maybe why Wellens couldn't have Devante Cole or Matt Mills on this occasion and must instead work with his left back from Nantes and the Duck lad up front - at least until Doyle is fit - then I don't see why he can't do that..... He [Mr. Lemsagam] must surely understand that being a former Agent will bring with it certain concerns about his motives.... and spending a little bit of time kom-yoo-ni-kating might not be a bad idea. He's not Jack Walker, buying his childhood club, an Oligarch or a Sheikh..... why on earth would a Moroccan former football Agent residing in Dubai want to own Latics? Not worth pondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I see his mate Mr Optima Cars is already talking about dark conspiracies and the like. Maybe if his mate had made a better fist of things in December and January the new owner might have been more obliging in securing his targets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Who is Mr Optima Cars then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: Please stop doing that When Abdallah pays wages on time, showing the mere semblance of one, I will. I promise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I'm somewhat confused that re-signing three players who took part in our dismal December form is regarded as strengthening the squad. I accept that without them Bury would soon pass us by. Undoubtedly the delayed takeover made things difficult for Wellens as players might have jumped our way earlier in the month. I agree with his assessment of both players out of contract and, I think, by analogy players who have not had recent game time. There looks to be for example a good player in Pringle but he lacks both match fitness and sharpness ( might never get it back due to his injury). Wellens knows that even with Bryan we are a centre back short because Gerrard is crocked and it is this which will ultimately see us relegated. Simon Corney will be disappointed but somewhat smug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, kowenicki said: Not worth pondering. In a - put your fingers in your ears - and go la-la-la-la-la, sort of way....? Edited February 1, 2018 by lookersstandandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 9 hours ago, deyres42 said: First window for both manager and owner, a learning game for both. As an agent, you’re pushing it to call it Abdallah’s first window That said, we may have failed to clinch a few deals, but we’re hardly that attractive a proposition at present, and all things considered, I think we had a very decent window Now it’s time for the players and manager to step up. Less said about the upstairs the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, NewBlue said: As an agent, you’re pushing it to call it Abdallah’s first window That said, we may have failed to clinch a few deals, but we’re hardly that attractive a proposition at present, and all things considered, I think we had a very decent window Now it’s time for the players and manager to step up. Less said about the upstairs the better First window for him on the other side of the fence then, so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 6 hours ago, archiecat said: Now if only we knew an experienced scout who could help the club in it's hour of need In my experience big strong centre backs are the easiest to find. I remember Aden Flint at Alfreton - now worth a reported £12 million. Many more out there like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 12 hours ago, Gaz_Oafc said: Did we ever officially sign that Jean Ambrose?, He's a CB isn't he? He arrived with the other #frenchlads at the beginning of the season and I'm sure he sits in the main stand some match days. Does he moan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Does he moan? You may need to ask Mrs Ambrose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I presume he says, "Ooh la la." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 hours ago, whittles left foot said: Oh to find somebody who could answer this. I expect it’s purely because of the money that’s now in the Championship, a league with the 4th highest average attendance in Europe and being one league away from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Well unless he has some better quality players than what we have seen so far it might be 2 leagues away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: Well unless he has some better quality players than what we have seen so far it might be 2 leagues away. I don’t disagree. He probably thought French 2nd division players could do well in the English 3rd division and he’s sorely mistaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 01/02/2018 at 1:26 PM, lookersstandandy said: Mr. Lemsagam's record so far is iffy at best; Placide - Started brilliantly, gone right off the boil. Gevaro - OK. Queensy - Didn't work out. Maouche - Clearly not up to standard and a 2 deal looks foolish. Omrani - Nowhere near good enough either, 1 year deal was too much. De Le Paz - TBC Nazon - TBC Moimbe - TBC. .....and there may be more to come over the next few days/weeks....? If this is 'the plan' and the standard of thrustee does not improve markedly..... we are fooked, Leyton Orient style. I hope he's an absolute genius who unearths gems faster than a Hatton Garden diamond dealer..... but if he doesn't, we [via the trust?] need to attempt to encourage him to review his plan [whatever it is?], quickly. Update; Placide - Started brilliantly, gone right off the boil. On balance - cult status aside - probs not good enough. Gevaro - OK. Queensy - Didn't work out. Maouche - Clearly not up to standard and a 2 deal looks foolish. Omrani - Nowhere near good enough either, 1 year deal was too much. De Le Paz - TBC Nazon - Got something about him. Still very raw. Moimbe - Not convinced yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, lookersstandandy said: Update; Placide - Started brilliantly, gone right off the boil. On balance - cult status aside - probs not good enough. Gevaro - OK. Queensy - Didn't work out. Maouche - Clearly not up to standard and a 2 deal looks foolish. Omrani - Nowhere near good enough either, 1 year deal was too much. De Le Paz - TBC Nazon - Got something about him. Still very raw. Moimbe - Not convinced yet. Some wasted wages right there, for the same money we could of had two or three real quality additions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Some wasted wages right there, for the same money we could of had two or three real quality additions. Like say, Matt Mills & Devante Cole? Drops Sports Direct. Repaint the Chaddy roof. Get a new bag of balls...... but it’s window dressing. I wanna hear what the plan is. Cos if it’s sign a squad of this lot, I’d be very worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: Like say, Matt Mills & Devante Cole? Drops Sports Direct. Repaint the Chaddy roof. Get a new bag of balls...... but it’s window dressing. I wanna hear what the plan is. Cos if it’s sign a squad of this lot, I’d be very worried. Matt mills I give you, but devante Cole isn't the sort of player IMO that we need, other people have a higher opinion of him than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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