latics22 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 50 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: I totally agree but he is probably still our best player currently and may well be needed in the last couple of games. Make ur mind up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, underdog said: I know what you mean and he's been sent off before but and big but.....he seems to be the only one bombing down the sidelines and can swing a cross in.... frustrating and scary as hell.....a bit like Jonny too.....it's been a roller coaster of a season Don't get me wrong, when this has settled and we’ve stayed up (I hope) I’m sure I’ll be asking for him to be retained, but I wouldn’t begrudge Wellens if he decided against keeping him. A 29 year old should be experienced beyond that petulance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, NewBlue said: Don't get me wrong, when this has settled and we’ve stayed up (I hope) I’m sure I’ll be asking for him to be retained, but I wouldn’t begrudge Wellens if he decided against keeping him. A 29 year old should be experienced beyond that petulance You say this yet week in week out you see players at all levels of all ages making these mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 28 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: I think our problems lie in midfield and up front. Our defence has coped well in the four games in April. If Doyle and Byrne were the versions we had on loan, then we would be in a far better place. D & B are not the versions we had earlier because were not playing them the same or playing in the same way as a team. Doyle needs a partner to play off and its not Nazon.Byrne was playing centre mid and now RW is asking him to play wide right. I would start with Holloway & Doyle with Byrne just behind then bring Ducks on 2nd half and let him run at tired defences. Got to go 4312 with Fane,Gardner & prob Pringle in the mid and start every game with a much higher intensity like we did when RW first took over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, losesome said: D & B are not the versions we had earlier because were not playing them the same or playing in the same way as a team. Doyle needs a partner to play off and its not Nazon.Byrne was playing centre mid and now RW is asking him to play wide right. I would start with Holloway & Doyle with Byrne just behind then bring Ducks on 2nd half and let him run at tired defences. Got to go 4312 with Fane,Gardner & prob Pringle in the mid and start every game with a much higher intensity like we did when RW first took over. I thought Byrne played centre mid today. I thought that Doyle missed three good chances today. Holloway should have come on earlier in the second half and it should have been for Doyle imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Wardie said: Interesting point but probably in vain...if the club appealed the card and it went through the due process with the result that he reacted to a foul, should the penalty decision be also questioned? If so, how would that be resolved? I suppose we shall have to await more information, if any is forthcoming. You are kidding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 If I was manager I would be appealing the red so he can play on tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Does he get an extra game ban because it is his 2nd of the season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 21 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Does he get an extra game ban because it is his 2nd of the season... Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 13 hours ago, Wardie said: Interesting point but probably in vain...if the club appealed the card and it went through the due process with the result that he reacted to a foul, should the penalty decision be also questioned? If so, how would that be resolved? I suppose we shall have to await more information, if any is forthcoming. I suppose there's the possibility of retrospective action against their player. If he's done anything wrong. If you're expecting the penalty to be disallowed I think you're going to be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_lover Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 50 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Does he get an extra game ban because it is his 2nd of the season... His first red was a 2nd yellow wasn’t it? So surely wouldn’t? I could be wrong I can’t really remember truth be told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 So, if it’s true that the offence was hair pulling (solid ground for regulation buzz cuts across the EFL), does this still count as ‘violent conduct’? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, JohnnyPimp said: So, if it’s true that the offence was hair pulling (solid ground for regulation buzz cuts across the EFL), does this still count as ‘violent conduct’? Makes you wonder about the punch Wellens has apparently seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Shows just how desperate and petty those two officials were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Kusunga_Is_God said: Shows just how desperate and petty those two officials were. Not really. If he has pulled his hair, it is a foul... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kusunga_Is_God said: Shows just how desperate and petty those two officials were. Or shows how little you know about what constitutes a foul etc. If you're going to disagree with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Or shows how little you know about what constitutes a foul etc. If you're going to disagree with it Eaves himself said what happened wouldn't normally result in a foul being given. The ref was desparate to be the centre of attention, blowing up for every contact. Petty sums him up pretty well. Where did he find seven minutes of stoppage time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, Magic Mikey said: Eaves himself said what happened wouldn't normally result in a foul being given. The ref was desparate to be the centre of attention, blowing up for every contact. Petty sums him up pretty well. Where did he find seven minutes of stoppage time? The 7 minute stoppage time was disgusting. How many times have teams come here and wasted time from 1st half and there's been 3 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 33 minutes ago, Magic Mikey said: The ref was desparate to be the centre of attention, blowing up for every contact. Petty sums him up pretty well. Where did he find seven minutes of stoppage time? Because there were a lot of stoppages for fouls. Vicious circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Lee Sinnott said: Not really. If he has pulled his hair, it is a foul... But not a red card. Beckham had his hair pulled in Spain, the culprit was booked, Beckham had a new, much shorter, hairstyle for his next game. I think Eaves may be covering his part in the incident, something that may warrant retrospective action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, mcfluff1985 said: The 7 minute stoppage time was disgusting. How many times have teams come here and wasted time from 1st half and there's been 3 minutes. There was a prolonged stoppage halfway through the second half, plus the time for Moimbe’s sending off, 6 substitutions and 3 bookings, one of which was for time-wasting. 7 minutes might have been stretching it, but it was a lot more accurate than the 3 minutes in the Walsall game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Really like Moimbe as a player but he can be a liability which can and has cost us points which could send us down. Easily could have been sent off at Oxford last week from where I was sat, nearly cost us at Blackburn and did cost us today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 8 hours ago, Dave_Og said: You are kidding? It comes across wrong...there is no way the penalty decision could be changed, obviously but I was thinking more of an apology from the officials. As I more or less said, any appeal would probably be in vain anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler13 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, rudemedic said: But not a red card. Beckham had his hair pulled in Spain, the culprit was booked, Beckham had a new, much shorter, hairstyle for his next game. I think Eaves may be covering his part in the incident, something that may warrant retrospective action. Eaves is a dirty bastard. He’s got one of the worst discipline records in the league. Up to Saturday he had clocked up 9 yellows and one red this season and he has scored most of his goals from the penalty spot. He’s got a reputation of winding players up and getting them booked and sent off. He’s become a truly nasty piece of works and I am told that he really did something serious to Mombie to get him to retaliate. Retrospective action could well happen against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Smiler13 said: Eaves is a dirty bastard. He’s got one of the worst discipline records in the league. Up to Saturday he had clocked up 9 yellows and one red this season and he has scored most of his goals from the penalty spot. He’s got a reputation of winding players up and getting them booked and sent off. He’s become a truly nasty piece of works and I am told that he really did something serious to Mombie to get him to retaliate. Retrospective action could well happen against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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