GlossopLatic Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Seems a pretty shite way to treat someone this, perhaps their is an ongoing legal process with the club hence no message on the website. What we do know is that we"ve lost a valuable asset for our football club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 On 12/7/2018 at 8:17 PM, deyres42 said: No problem at all, just not sure that it is a common occurrence for someone who has been sacked for a perceived disciplinary matter... Thought he was suspended not sacked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Thought he was suspended not sacked? Last we heard he was. Probs knew the outcome tho so got a Premier League job instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) Good luck to him. Good luck to our new kids coach too. (Pete Wild or whoever). Edited December 8, 2018 by kowenicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boys in Blue Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 This is a terrible way to treat someone who has done such a great job for tryclub for so many years. i can’t imagine that Philliskirk did anything too bad if Burnley felt that he was the right fit for their club. I wish him all the best and still feel that he’s a loss to the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) The last I heard and this was about the start of the season, was the club had completed what they had to do and were satisfied, it had to be then passed onto the FA which also completed their part and again, where satisfied. (Hence why Tony can continue his work in the same/similar job role with another club). What has happened since I do not know but its between the employer/employee and we may never know unless one of the parties tells. Edited December 9, 2018 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 It was Philliskirk himself who decided not to come back here. He was very annoyed with the way the whole thing was dealt with by the club... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 It’s done. New guy is doing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiecat Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 9 hours ago, kowenicki said: It’s done. New guy is doing well. Replace carpet and put brush away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 10 hours ago, kowenicki said: It’s done. New guy is doing well. Wasn't done in a very nice way though was it and you have to give Tony credit for the way he's conducted himself throughout which is no surprise to many given the loyal nature of his service to us, it's a shame he never had a chance to part on his own terms but I'm sure every true fan would wish him all the best for the future, as for the new guy he will be out on his ear too very soon as I'm hearing the youth set up will be mothballed altogether as owner and manager don't see the benefit of it and would rather channel all the resources into the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Wasn't done in a very nice way though was it and you have to give Tony credit for the way he's conducted himself throughout which is no surprise to many given the loyal nature of his service to us, it's a shame he never had a chance to part on his own terms but I'm sure every true fan would wish him all the best for the future, as for the new guy he will be out on his ear too very soon as I'm hearing the youth set up will be mothballed altogether as owner and manager don't see the benefit of it and would rather channel all the resources into the first team. Interesting final comment. Sincerely hope that it’s just hearsay and not actually true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: I'm hearing the youth set up will be mothballed altogether as owner and manager don't see the benefit of it and would rather channel all the resources into the first team. I would suspect that, rather than mothball the whole thing, they'd move from category 3 status to category 4. The likes of Hamer & Edmundson only joined the youth system at late stages (Hamer having stayed in grassroots & Edmundson having been at various other clubs). Jamie Stott (u9) and Joel Coleman (u13) had been around longer but the landscape around developing kids in our area is very different and, once cat 3 squads reach u16, there tends to be a cull with players being dropped in from cat 1 or 2 clubs to see who might get offered youth deals. There has been some money generated from selling young (u9-12) players but whether this is enough to fund the whole operation is a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, yarddog73 said: Wasn't done in a very nice way though was it and you have to give Tony credit for the way he's conducted himself throughout which is no surprise to many given the loyal nature of his service to us, it's a shame he never had a chance to part on his own terms but I'm sure every true fan would wish him all the best for the future, as for the new guy he will be out on his ear too very soon as I'm hearing the youth set up will be mothballed altogether as owner and manager don't see the benefit of it and would rather channel all the resources into the first team. I can echo the sentiment in the early part of this. The merits of the academy I am not qualified to comment on, I don’t know enough about it. I suspect at our level it is a very simple formula though. How much has it made/saved us financially? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 43 minutes ago, kowenicki said: I can echo the sentiment in the early part of this. The merits of the academy I am not qualified to comment on, I don’t know enough about it. I suspect at our level it is a very simple formula though. How much has it made/saved us financially? Majority of players that have come through, have come from bigger clubs academies when they reach 15/16. Would think if we don’t reach L1 this season we will get rid of the younger age groups. Had heard Bunn didn’t want the academy which is strange due to his background. AL I thought he liked it. Maybe wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Bit strange given how many yoof we've had on the bench recently - it was like a nursery on Saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, oafcmetty said: Bit strange given how many yoof we've had on the bench recently - it was like a nursery on Saturday? Sort of vindicates it in a way - the bench is full of teenagers beause we haven't been able to invest the necessary funds in a deep first team squad. I think a decision to drop the younger age groups woudl be logical and understandable but a great shame and deeply regrettable at the same time. That's modern football for you in a nutshell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 33 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Sort of vindicates it in a way - the bench is full of teenagers beause we haven't been able to invest the necessary funds in a deep first team squad. I think a decision to drop the younger age groups woudl be logical and understandable but a great shame and deeply regrettable at the same time. That's modern football for you in a nutshell. Indeed it seems like the policy of the local Premier League clubs is to recruit youngsters from overseas at 15 or 16 as they become 'home-grown' for UEFA competitions by the time they get into the first team. (As an example despite it costing them £89 million to buy him back- Pogba is a 'home-grown' player for United). One lad I know who was in City's Academy for a few years was dropped due to issues affecting his performance that were not related to his ability. But he was at that age when those sort of issues appear. I think there are moral merits in keeping the Academy going at its current age levels but I don't think the financial merits are there any more. It may be wise to look at doing it in stages as it will give those involved time to assess. Williams who was on our bench for the cup tie was around the year before, minimum. * If we mothball too much we may miss out on someone like that but we can mothball some of the age groups and not miss out. *I'm sure those who know more will correct when he joined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 As FB has stated, the Prem. clubs gobble up any young player they think may have a chance and pay the likes of us peanuts. The money and prospect of there kid going to a Prem. club for the parents is too much to turn down. The vast majority of them then either drop down the leagues or are lost to football altogether. It's a problem created by the greedy league and allowed by the FA and EFL to keep the greedy clubs happy. Huddersfield and Brentford have now dropped to cat. 4 academies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I wonder if we will see this type of complaint more often; https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46729011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Snowflakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: I wonder if we will see this type of complaint more often; https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46729011 reported as being anti-English bullying. good grief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: reported as being anti-English bullying. good grief. If it was an Englishman insulting the Welsh you can virtually guarantee it would be reported as such. So why not the other way round? (I'm part Welsh BTW) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) Reap what you sow. Ps. Bellamy is a Bell-end. His pseudo intellectual political rant on Skysports recently was embarrassingly simplistic and stupid. He’s a stupid and arrogant man. Edited January 2, 2019 by kowenicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, rudemedic said: If it was an Englishman insulting the Welsh you can virtually guarantee it would be reported as such. So why not the other way round? (I'm part Welsh BTW) Sorry, didn't make myself clear. Meant how ridiculous it was that anyone (allegedly Bellamy in this case) would adopt a bullying stance on that premise. Bullying is horrible and if that's what he's been doing then he shouldn't be a youth coach. But who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just now, rudemedic said: If it was an Englishman insulting the Welsh you can virtually guarantee it would be reported as such. So why not the other way round? (I'm part Welsh BTW) You see a lot of this in society. The Welsh on the whole seriously dislike the English (lived in Wales all my life) personally don’t understand it. Remember being in the local pub back home, England v Australia where on and several of the Welsh where dressed in Australia shirts looking for a reaction. Also went to another pub, group of 6 of us who wanted to watch England during the Euros and they just said we would never show England games in here. Weird because the pub essentially only trades due to the tourism from England. Weird mentality but hey ho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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