yarddog73 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 5 hours ago, boundaryblue80 said: Why the fuck anyone wants Paul Scholes, is beyond me... For a start he wouldn't have players around him who disrespect him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, boundaryblue80 said: . Edited June 9, 2018 by yarddog73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 54 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: For a start he wouldn't have players around him who disrespect him. His status might also mean AL leaves him to it, he would take no shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, boundaryblue80 said: Why the fuck anyone wants Paul Scholes, is beyond me... Frizzell, Royle, Sharp, Warnock, Ritchie, Wadsworth, Dowie, Talbot, Sheridan & Eyres, Philliskirk, Moore, Sheridan Again, Royle again, Penny, Dickov, philliskirk again, Johnson, Hoden, Kelly, Dunn, Sheridan again, Robinson, Sheridan again & Wellens, Frizzell was a legend yes but I was young when he was at his peak and my memory is a little vague other than we were as struggling team with low attendances until Royle took over. Ritchie signed some good players and I thought would have gone on to be a success as a manager at latics, sadly he didn't. Thats our list of managers in my time supporting the club. Of them only... Royle, Dowie, Sheridan have stood out if I look back as having any success. Royle needs no explaining. Dowie had us playing good football, signed some really good players for our level, some from non league and it looked like success was on the cards. Got us to the play offs. Sheridans first stint saw us playing good football and got us to the play offs also. These 3 were rookie managers, and all 3 have delivered the best football in my time supporting the club, in my opinion. The more experienced managers on that list who knew the lower leagues and who had been a success elsewhere delivered utter garbage if I remember. So Why the fuck anyone wants Paul Scholes is beyond BB80 Thats your opinion and your entitled to it and I respect that we all see different things in people. My opinion for what its worth and I apologize if its blindly positive and I will try not to write in poem to those concerned. Scholes would also, be a rookie manager. He is widely respected throughout the game and media for being one of the best modern midfielders of our generation, I also feel he was too. He speaks plainly without riddles, he says it as it is on TV and I would imagine he would take no crap off todays lower league players. There would be something mentally wrong for a player at our level not to listen, learn, understand and do as instructed by a manager of his standing, surely the thought of playing for Scholes would be enough to lift some players to another level. He would have lots & lots of contacts ( we've heard that before I know ) in the game and media. Most fans no matter what you read on here would be over the moon at the thought of this happening. And maybe unlike some of the past tripe, he would genuinely have an interest in wanting us to be back in league 1 at the very least. He lives in Grasscroft so hes local, he has supported us at some degree over the years and he would put some more bums on seats. He could also make player recruitment a little easier, most people have heard of Paul Scholes, lots don't know who AL is or even know much about Latics these days. So, its Paul Scholes, he may put more bums on seats, he may know a little bit about the game ( rookie manager yes ), he will have contacts, he knows our club and has an affinity with it, he could attract players, he would be a marketing tool and the thought of it happening would excite most latics fans. Or we could go for an experienced Darren Ferguson, Phil Brown type or others of the like on the list of would be managers ......... my opinion that's all Edited June 9, 2018 by maximus1267 spelling mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 7 hours ago, boundaryblue80 said: Why the fuck anyone wants Paul Scholes, is beyond me... How can it be beyond you? There are some very obvious benefits. I agree that there are some very obvious deficiencies too but surely that doesn’t put comprehending why quite a few would want it. Odd thing to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor_Coconut Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 7 hours ago, boundaryblue80 said: Why the fuck anyone wants Paul Scholes, is beyond me... Don't really understand it either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 7 hours ago, boundaryblue80 said: Why the fuck anyone wants Paul Scholes, is beyond me... I would normally agree, but I think he maybe the shot in the arm we need to lift us out of this mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 The last few appointments haven't had a lengthy managerial record so Scholes is no worse than them. Only negative is experience but if AL has the cash then bringing in a seasoned assistant will address that. Admittedly he comes over as quiet but he obviously knows his own ability so wanting the job means he's confident he would succeed Positives far outweighs negatives - increase our profile in the media, strengthen our position in signing young players from Prem and Championship especially Man Utd, inspire coaching with his profile and ability plus he does have an affinity with the club. As latics22 said - we need a shot in the arm and some positivity. Scholes would bring that because he's admired throughout the footballing world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 hour ago, maximus1267 said: Frizzell, Royle, Sharp, Warnock, Ritchie, Wadsworth, Dowie, Talbot, Sheridan & Eyres, Philliskirk, Moore, Sheridan Again, Royle again, Penny, Dickov, philliskirk again, Johnson, Hoden, Kelly, Dunn, Sheridan again, Robinson, Sheridan again & Wellens, Frizzell was a legend yes but I was young when he was at his peak and my memory is a little vague other than we were as struggling team with low attendances until Royle took over. Ritchie signed some good players and I thought would have gone on to be a success as a manager at latics, sadly he didn't. Thats our list of managers in my time supporting the club. Of them only... Royle, Dowie, Sheridan have stood out if I look back as having any success. Royle needs no explaining. Dowie had us playing good football, signed some really good players for our level, some from non league and it looked like success was on the cards. Got us to the play offs. Sheridans first stint saw us playing good football and got us to the play offs also. These 3 were rookie managers, and all 3 have delivered the best football in my time supporting the club, in my opinion. The more experienced managers on that list who knew the lower leagues and who had been a success elsewhere delivered utter garbage if I remember. So Why the fuck anyone wants Paul Scholes is beyond BB80 Thats your opinion and your entitled to it and I respect that we all see different things in people. My opinion for what its worth and I apologize if its blindly positive and I will try not to write in poem to those concerned. Scholes would also, be a rookie manager. He is widely respected throughout the game and media for being one of the best modern midfielders of our generation, I also feel he was too. He speaks plainly without riddles, he says it as it is on TV and I would imagine he would take no crap off todays lower league players. There would be something mentally wrong for a player at our level not to listen, learn, understand and do as instructed by a manager of his standing, surely the thought of playing for Scholes would be enough to lift some players to another level. He would have lots & lots of contacts ( we've heard that before I know ) in the game and media. Most fans no matter what you read on here would be over the moon at the thought of this happening. And maybe unlike some of the past tripe, he would genuinely have an interest in wanting us to be back in league 1 at the very least. He lives in Grasscroft so hes local, he has supported us at some degree over the years and he would put some more bums on seats. He could also make player recruitment a little easier, most people have heard of Paul Scholes, lots don't know who AL is or even know much about Latics these days. So, its Paul Scholes, he may put more bums on seats, he may know a little bit about the game ( rookie manager yes ), he will have contacts, he knows our club and has an affinity with it, he could attract players, he would be a marketing tool and the thought of it happening would excite most latics fans. Or we could go for an experienced Darren Ferguson, Phil Brown type or others of the like on the list of would be managers ......... my opinion that's all Bang on Maximus my thoughts exactly! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 3 hours ago, maximus1267 said: Frizzell, Royle, Sharp, Warnock, Ritchie, Wadsworth, Dowie, Talbot, Sheridan & Eyres, Philliskirk, Moore, Sheridan Again, Royle again, Penny, Dickov, philliskirk again, Johnson, Hoden, Kelly, Dunn, Sheridan again, Robinson, Sheridan again & Wellens, Frizzell was a legend yes but I was young when he was at his peak and my memory is a little vague other than we were as struggling team with low attendances until Royle took over. Ritchie signed some good players and I thought would have gone on to be a success as a manager at latics, sadly he didn't. Thats our list of managers in my time supporting the club. Of them only... Royle, Dowie, Sheridan have stood out if I look back as having any success. Royle needs no explaining. Dowie had us playing good football, signed some really good players for our level, some from non league and it looked like success was on the cards. Got us to the play offs. Sheridans first stint saw us playing good football and got us to the play offs also. These 3 were rookie managers, and all 3 have delivered the best football in my time supporting the club, in my opinion. The more experienced managers on that list who knew the lower leagues and who had been a success elsewhere delivered utter garbage if I remember. So Why the fuck anyone wants Paul Scholes is beyond BB80 Thats your opinion and your entitled to it and I respect that we all see different things in people. My opinion for what its worth and I apologize if its blindly positive and I will try not to write in poem to those concerned. Scholes would also, be a rookie manager. He is widely respected throughout the game and media for being one of the best modern midfielders of our generation, I also feel he was too. He speaks plainly without riddles, he says it as it is on TV and I would imagine he would take no crap off todays lower league players. There would be something mentally wrong for a player at our level not to listen, learn, understand and do as instructed by a manager of his standing, surely the thought of playing for Scholes would be enough to lift some players to another level. He would have lots & lots of contacts ( we've heard that before I know ) in the game and media. Most fans no matter what you read on here would be over the moon at the thought of this happening. And maybe unlike some of the past tripe, he would genuinely have an interest in wanting us to be back in league 1 at the very least. He lives in Grasscroft so hes local, he has supported us at some degree over the years and he would put some more bums on seats. He could also make player recruitment a little easier, most people have heard of Paul Scholes, lots don't know who AL is or even know much about Latics these days. So, its Paul Scholes, he may put more bums on seats, he may know a little bit about the game ( rookie manager yes ), he will have contacts, he knows our club and has an affinity with it, he could attract players, he would be a marketing tool and the thought of it happening would excite most latics fans. Or we could go for an experienced Darren Ferguson, Phil Brown type or others of the like on the list of would be managers ......... my opinion that's all Agree with a lot of this, but Frizzell was a great manager. Took us from Div 4 to Div 2, and when he was sacked in 1982 it caused a sensation. Admittedly managers lasted longer back then, but he was the second longest-serving manager of the 92 when sacked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Worcester Owl said: Agree with a lot of this, but Frizzell was a great manager. Took us from Div 4 to Div 2, and when he was sacked in 1982 it caused a sensation. Admittedly managers lasted longer back then, but he was the second longest-serving manager of the 92 when sacked. Who was No. 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 41 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Who was No. 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: Who was No. 1? Bobby Robson at Ipswich Town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Scholes + Phelan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler13 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 11 hours ago, oafc1955 said: Bang on Maximus my thoughts exactly! However we can all wish Scholes took it on but I think the timing could be wrong. Isn’t he signed up for media coverage with the World Cup??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Worcester Owl said: Agree with a lot of this, but Frizzell was a great manager. Took us from Div 4 to Div 2, and when he was sacked in 1982 it caused a sensation. Admittedly managers lasted longer back then, but he was the second longest-serving manager of the 92 when sacked. Wasn't Royle also the second longest serving when he left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Smiler13 said: However we can all wish Scholes took it on but I think the timing could be wrong. Isn’t he signed up for media coverage with the World Cup??? I don't imagine Scholes is interested but, if he were, I don't think his media commitments would get in the way of him taking the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, Stevie_J said: Wasn't Royle also the second longest serving when he left? Thats my recollection too..... although for the life of me I can’t recall who was #1, Royle started in ‘82 and left in ‘94, Dario Gradi started at Crewe in ‘83, Brian Clough left Forest in ‘93.....!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 46 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: Thats my recollection too..... although for the life of me I can’t recall who was #1, Royle started in ‘82 and left in ‘94, Dario Gradi started at Crewe in ‘83, Brian Clough left Forest in ‘93.....!?!? I dunno if he would even count in this particular instance, but wasn't the guy at Marine around from the mid 70's until 2000ish...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 13 hours ago, Senor_Coconut said: Don't really understand it either Intentionally vague and got a few bites. "Look at me". As others as said, whether you would or wouldn't, there are definitely benefits. He's bright and 'no-nonsense' enough for me to think he'd be a good shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Pretty sure Scholes wouldn't accept a minibus full of trialists turning up unannounced every Monday morning, not that any manager should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLegend Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 1 hour ago, yarddog73 said: Pretty sure Scholes wouldn't accept a minibus full of trialists turning up unannounced every Monday morning, not that any manager should. Pretty sure he wouldn't have a choice like the last two managers didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Pretty sure he will ask such questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 3 hours ago, yarddog73 said: Pretty sure Scholes wouldn't accept a minibus full of trialists turning up unannounced every Monday morning, not that any manager should. Why not? They are trialists. Don’t like them....put ‘em back in the bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 13 hours ago, Smiler13 said: However we can all wish Scholes took it on but I think the timing could be wrong. Isn’t he signed up for media coverage with the World Cup??? Is he going or is he sitting in a studio at Media City for a few hours every other evening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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