Clifford Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 23 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: Happy to buy you a tram ticket-the sooner you go the better. I'm not that poor that I live near a tram stop. How fucking dare you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 So that statement, lads? Still behind AL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) If the notes from the trust meeting (due Thursday?) have the merest hint of positivity and patient collaboration I may hear the reaction from down here in London. Edited May 7, 2019 by Dave_Og Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Surely in light of PW’s departure tonight, the Trust needs to clarify what was discussed with this Clown and what their position is now. Fuck trying to mediate. The Clown is a cancer and will destroy this club. Only way to salvage this is to deliver the following guarantees - 1. PW will be replaced with an experienced manager with a successful managerial record at this level or above 2. The club will have a realistic and ambitious playing budget to deliver promotion back to League One If he cannot guarantee both of these then we MUST boycott the club. Not only refuse to purchase STs but demand refunds. This Trust snippet implied the Clown is to restructure the club’s finances but the latest rumours strongly suggest this means L2 mid-table at best but more realistically L2 survival. What’s the point of this Clown buying us if he’s not to progress the club. Smoke this fucker out. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Midsblue said: Only way to salvage this is to deliver the following guarantees - 1. PW will be replaced with an experienced manager with a successful managerial record at this level or above How in God's name can that be guaranteed??? Although Owen Coyle would fit the description!! Edited May 7, 2019 by Dave_Og Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: How in God's name can that be guaranteed??? Although Owen Coyle would fit the description!! Easy. I’m not expecting Mourinho. I’m expecting someone we know, someone who’s been successful and someone who can demonstrate that this Clown is not only ambitious. It won’t guarantee success but we rebuild some positivity into this club. Just a managerial appointment where the fans just don’t think WTF or who? It’ll never happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Midsblue said: Easy. I’m not expecting Mourinho. I’m expecting someone we know, someone who’s been successful and someone who can demonstrate that this Clown is not only ambitious. It won’t guarantee success but we rebuild some positivity into this club. Just a managerial appointment where the fans just don’t think WTF or who? It’ll never happen though. Only the mad, the bad and the desperate are applying for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Midsblue said: Surely in light of PW’s departure tonight, the Trust needs to clarify what was discussed with this Clown and what their position is now. Fuck trying to mediate. The Clown is a cancer and will destroy this club. Only way to salvage this is to deliver the following guarantees - 1. PW will be replaced with an experienced manager with a successful managerial record at this level or above 2. The club will have a realistic and ambitious playing budget to deliver promotion back to League One If he cannot guarantee both of these then we MUST boycott the club. Not only refuse to purchase STs but demand refunds. This Trust snippet implied the Clown is to restructure the club’s finances but the latest rumours strongly suggest this means L2 mid-table at best but more realistically L2 survival. What’s the point of this Clown buying us if he’s not to progress the club. Smoke this fucker out. Wouldn't want to see the fella bankrupt himself in some vain pursuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 With our luck, we'll end up with Lee sodding Clark or Graham frigging Westley. And we thought we'd dodged a bullet not having Pressley. The basket case has to pull something out of the fire to get folk onside. Can't see it happening though. What's Pablo Correa up to these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Wouldn't want to see the fella bankrupt himself in some vain pursuit. Im not expecting him to bankrupt himself but instil confidence back into the club and deliver a realistic budget or even use his ‘contacts’ to deliver additional investment. Do we know what his worth is and what he’s invested thus far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsmarra Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Midsblue said: Im not expecting him to bankrupt himself but instil confidence back into the club and deliver a realistic budget or even use his ‘contacts’ to deliver additional investment. Do we know what his worth is and what he’s invested thus far? He has already proved himself to be morally bankrupt and that is difficult to change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Midsblue said: Im not expecting him to bankrupt himself but instil confidence back into the club and deliver a realistic budget or even use his ‘contacts’ to deliver additional investment. Do we know what his worth is and what he’s invested thus far? Everything suggests the taps have been turned off and won't be getting turned back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Everything suggests the taps have been turned off and won't be getting turned back on. Hence time to force him out. If we had an owner with limited funds and they were engaged with the fans and synergising manager, players and everyone at the club to maximise that limited fund then they’d get my support. At moment this Clown is wrecking everything, which is exaggerating the limitation in funds because the infrastructure is on its knees. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitygoo Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I wasn't sold on Wild as manage but he cared.... He deserved to go back in as academy coach and do what he loved. If he's left for external personal reasons OK fair enough but i highly doubt this. Can only be for a disagreement in club direction. The few percent who blindly backed AL need to wake up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 The 3 Amigos were here to make money from property deals and when they couldn’t make quite as much as they hoped they buggered off (keeping a few bits for security and cash flow) and sold some other bits of the club to a Middle Eastern wannabe who is hoping to make some money though his football agency business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Midsblue said: 1. PW will be replaced with an experienced manager with a successful managerial record at this level or above 2. The club will have a realistic and ambitious playing budget to deliver promotion back to League One In no way a defence of the owner but you can't demand these things. 1. Massively out of our budget unless it's someone who has failed way more than succeeded 2. Our income means this probably won't be possible You either want a stable club running within it's means or risk throwing more than we can afford at something that is in no way guaranteed, risking the future more than it already is having him in charge. Not many examples of teams with tiny budgets succeeding. Very much in the minority. He needs to start making decisions that are sensible and the fans can get on board with, like offering Clarke another year, while (hate to say it) slowly slowly over a year or so working on bringing the fans back to increase the budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, mcfluff1985 said: In no way a defence of the owner but you can't demand these things. 1. Massively out of our budget unless it's someone who has failed way more than succeeded 2. Our income means this probably won't be possible You either want a stable club running within it's means or risk throwing more than we can afford at something that is in no way guaranteed, risking the future more than it already is having him in charge. Not many examples of teams with tiny budgets succeeding. Very much in the minority. He needs to start making decisions that are sensible and the fans can get on board with, like offering Clarke another year, while (hate to say it) slowly slowly over a year or so working on bringing the fans back to increase the budget Theres managers out there and if our owner wasn’t interfering, disruptive and irrational but the exact opposite then guarantee 1 could easily be achieved within our budget. Point 2 is heavily reliant on the owner. If he came out tomorrow and sold his plan to the fans, engaged with us and demonstrated his unconditional support to the manager, fans would buy STs enabling the achievement of Point 2. That’s the realistic guarantee ticked ie sustainable. Ambition is not hindering the managers objective by dictating acquisition of “his” players. If we’re paying £3k or £4k PW then we could easily secure decent domestic players. Had he not fucked up Scholes appointment then we could have maximised his connections on loans. Its achievable but not now - the club is too toxic with him still here. I’m afraid he needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: In no way a defence of the owner but you can't demand these things. 1. Massively out of our budget unless it's someone who has failed way more than succeeded 2. Our income means this probably won't be possible You either want a stable club running within it's means or risk throwing more than we can afford at something that is in no way guaranteed, risking the future more than it already is having him in charge. Not many examples of teams with tiny budgets succeeding. Very much in the minority. He needs to start making decisions that are sensible and the fans can get on board with, like offering Clarke another year, while (hate to say it) slowly slowly over a year or so working on bringing the fans back to increase the budget You do know Clarkey has gone right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Ritchierich said: You do know Clarkey has gone right? Yes. It was an example of something that would have helped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just now, mcfluff1985 said: Yes. It was an example of something that would have helped Ah, sorry, missunderstood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) He needs to start making decisions that are sensible and the fans can get on board with, like offering Clarke another year, while (hate to say it) slowly slowly over a year or so working on bringing the fans back to increase the budget ............It has become glaringly obvious that’s never going to happen. IMO he hasn’t the faintest idea how to run a football club and what’s more he couldn’t care less either. I would wager we’ll not see a new manager before July at the earliest as the football team is way down his list of priorities. Our club is being destroyed slowly slowly and he cannot be defended any longer. Pressure from the fans and the trust needs to be cranked up as we could well be in a similar situation to Bolton before much longer with debts spiralling out of control. He needs to be forced out ASAP by whatever means possible! Edited May 7, 2019 by oafc1955 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: In no way a defence of the owner but you can't demand these things. 1. Massively out of our budget unless it's someone who has failed way more than succeeded 2. Our income means this probably won't be possible You either want a stable club running within it's means or risk throwing more than we can afford at something that is in no way guaranteed, risking the future more than it already is having him in charge. Not many examples of teams with tiny budgets succeeding. Very much in the minority. He needs to start making decisions that are sensible and the fans can get on board with, like offering Clarke another year, while (hate to say it) slowly slowly over a year or so working on bringing the fans back to increase the budget We are about to haemorrhage fans at an alarming rate, working on bringing fans back is a lost cause in my opinion. I understand those who still want to attend games but even the most ardent fans are having severe reservations about how this bloke behaves, at some stage enoughs enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Bristolatic said: With our luck, we'll end up with Lee sodding Clark or Graham frigging Westley. And we thought we'd dodged a bullet not having Pressley. The basket case has to pull something out of the fire to get folk onside. Can't see it happening though. What's Pablo Correa up to these days? Westley would take us up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, oafcshuck said: Westley would take us up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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