Ryan Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, Lags said: So it's OK , some of the time? Honestly this happens everywhere. Down the era's “Just remember that Andy Tayls will trigger another year on his contract if he plays again. I’d advise you don’t do that as it’s a significant wage that will reduce your budget for next season when he’s clearly not good enough if we want to challenge for promotion.” “Morning gaffer. Hunty’s agent has been touting him about behind my back trying to get him a move to a better club with a higher league position. I know it’s not Rob’s fault and I used to do this thing all the time as an agent but it has pissed me off so he won’t be able to play again until I put my toys back in the pram and decide he can come off the naughty step.” ”But Absy he’s one of the first names on my team sheet and we’re still in with a shout of the play-offs.” Do you see how these two things are different? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_blue Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, underdog said: As in the current management group (FLG) who took over at the end of May? Or the previous management of the OEC that was our current landlord Brassbank? Any idea what the £50K is for? Cheers Historical re charges for utilities etc that the club had been paying. I believe it would be the owners which are liable the FLG aren’t the owners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Ryan said: “Just remember that Andy Tayls will trigger another year on his contract if he plays again. I’d advise you don’t do that as it’s a significant wage that will reduce your budget for next season when he’s clearly not good enough if we want to challenge for promotion.” “Morning gaffer. Hunty’s agent has been touting him about behind my back trying to get him a move to a better club with a higher league position. I know it’s not Rob’s fault and I used to do this thing all the time as an agent but it has pissed me off so he won’t be able to play again until I put my toys back in the pram and decide he can come off the naughty step.” ”But Absy he’s one of the first names on my team sheet and we’re still in with a shout of the play-offs.” Do you see how these two things are different? Well firstly, that's some crystal ball you have, but yes I do get what you are saying Ryan. It still doesn't alter the fact this type of thing as gone on a long time at most if not all clubs. Half the time we don't even hear about it. Anyway, we've done this enough. Agree to disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lags said: Well firstly, that's some crystal ball you have, but yes I do get what you are saying Ryan. It still doesn't alter the fact this type of thing as gone on a long time at most if not all clubs. Half the time we don't even hear about it. Anyway, we've done this enough. Agree to disagree. Fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, Lags said: So it's OK , some of the time? Honestly this happens everywhere. Down the era's Corney got Royle to drop Lee Hughes coz if he scored another goal it triggered a payment. #AgendaLads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 How does Pawel's Law work? Can we have Abdallahs's Law so we can pick and choose what counts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ryan said: “Just remember that Andy Tayls will trigger another year on his contract if he plays again. I’d advise you don’t do that as it’s a significant wage that will reduce your budget for next season when he’s clearly not good enough if we want to challenge for promotion.” “Morning gaffer. Hunty’s agent has been touting him about behind my back trying to get him a move to a better club with a higher league position. I know it’s not Rob’s fault and I used to do this thing all the time as an agent but it has pissed me off so he won’t be able to play again until I put my toys back in the pram and decide he can come off the naughty step.” ”But Absy he’s one of the first names on my team sheet and we’re still in with a shout of the play-offs.” Do you see how these two things are different? Aye...so a club has never benched a player that's been trying to engineer a move away either??? Alright then Arnautović - West Ham I'm enjoying this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeuwenhoek Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: Corney got Royle to drop Lee Hughes coz if he scored another goal it triggered a payment. #AgendaLads Yep. Sent him to Blackpool on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: Aye...so a club has never benched a player that's been trying to engineer a move away either??? Alright then Arnautović - West Ham I'm enjoying this game When did I say that, Rossy? Was it Pellegrini or the owners who made that decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisA Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: Corney got Royle to drop Lee Hughes coz if he scored another goal it triggered a payment. #AgendaLads If only he hadn't started both of Royle's first two games back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, Lags said: So you are saying they should interfere with team selection. Blimey, it's hard to understand this Al bashing malarkey. No Lags, that's not what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 29 minutes ago, Lags said: So it's OK , some of the time? Honestly this happens everywhere. Down the era's Don't care aboutother clubs but I do care about what happens at ours. There are some very different scenarios here; I can see why a Chairman may bar a specific player from selection for individual financial reasons such as a contractual obligation but that's miles away from some of the stories that appeared to have credibility last season. They seemed largely to revolve around fallings out because some players voiced their opinions or because they were not part of certain cliques. I don't know if they were true but the number of them with common themes represented strong circumstantial evidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, deyres42 said: No Lags, that's not what I'm saying. At the very least you're advocating it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: How does Pawel's Law work? Can we have Abdallahs's Law so we can pick and choose what counts? How about we just judge people on their actions whoever they are? Which as far as I can see, most people do when it comes to AL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, super_blue said: Historical re charges for utilities etc that the club had been paying. I believe it would be the owners which are liable the FLG aren’t the owners. I wonder who owes who the most? Landlord or club owner? And how long back can you chase a previous company for that owes you money...or your the business you have acquired money? I will presume there is a legal precedent set? Edited August 2, 2019 by underdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Dave_Og said: Don't care aboutother clubs but I do care about what happens at ours. There are some very different scenarios here; I can see why a Chairman may bar a specific player from selection for individual financial reasons such as a contractual obligation but that's miles away from some of the stories that appeared to have credibility last season. They seemed largely to revolve around fallings out because some players voiced their opinions or because they were not part of certain cliques. I don't know if they were true but the number of them with common themes represented strong circumstantial evidence. I think it's a known within the game these things do happen, many times not coming out of clubs for a long time afterwards. 'Dealt in house' the term used sometimes. I am not in the 'AL's done nothing wrong camp', but this is not unique to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: How does Pawel's Law work? Can we have Abdallahs's Law so we can pick and choose what counts? 13 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: Aye...so a club has never benched a player that's been trying to engineer a move away either??? Alright then Arnautović - West Ham I'm enjoying this game A question for both of you... do you think there is a culture at the club where if you say or do the wrong thing in the owner's eyes then you are out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, underdog said: I wonder who owns who the most? Landlord or club owner? hmmmm Probably Corney in the near past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 2, 2019 Author Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: You missed it above then Here it is again for you... Stop being played because it triggers a contract extenaion gets a free pass from me. That can be also a Chairman decision in fact may need to be. Especially if it applies to Coke and OGrady and quite a few others. I wouldn't classify that as interference. Is that the case for anyone though? Edited August 2, 2019 by singe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, nzlatic said: A question for both of you... do you think there is a culture at the club where if you say or do the wrong thing in the owner's eyes then you are out? I'd suggest that goes on in most businesses/companies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: Corney got Royle to drop Lee Hughes coz if he scored another goal it triggered a payment. #AgendaLads He started Royle's first couple of games and even missed an open goal against Tranmere. Joe Royle once told me and my dad that Lee Hughes, and this is a direct quote, "was the worst professional I have ever worked with" and said he would have piggy backed him to Blackpool if he could have... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, singe said: Stop being played because it triggers a contract extenaion gets a free pass from me. That can be also a Charlie an decision in fact may need to be. Especially if it applies to Coke and OGrady and quite a few others. I wouldn't classify that as interference. Is that the case for anyone though? So some interference is allowed, even if the manager wanted to pick that player? or only when you deem the player to be shit?. Not having a go at you here, but how do you pick and choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 2, 2019 Author Share Posted August 2, 2019 48 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Some might say it wasn't very smart of them to allow O'Grady's extention to be triggered if they wanted rid... That's evidence I agree is not interference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lags said: At the very least you're advocating it then? I would never advocate anyone other than the manager deciding who plays or not. I'm saying that these particular owners who clearly do interfere were stupid to allow an contract extension player they obviously didn't want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lags said: I think it's a known within the game these things do happen, many times not coming out of clubs for a long time afterwards. 'Dealt in house' the term used sometimes. I am not in the 'AL's done nothing wrong camp', but this is not unique to him. He's got one hell of a track record in a very short space of time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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