Dave_Og Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 20 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Probably in a minority but I think I'd rather get relegated and play more northern sides than have to endure trips to the likes of Dorking, Bromley and Boring Wood... Using that logic we may as well get relegated a few times and end up in the Oldham & District Sunday League 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Just now, Dave_Og said: Using that logic we may as well get relegated a few times and end up in the Oldham & District Sunday League AL couldn't afford to rent a Clayton playing field pitch though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 minute ago, BP1960 said: AL couldn't afford to rent a Clayton playing field pitch though. Probably thinks he owns them 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Using that logic we may as well get relegated a few times and end up in the Oldham & District Sunday League Even better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: Using that logic we may as well get relegated a few times and end up in the Oldham & District Sunday League To see 6,000 chasing umpteen dogs off Little Wembley would be worth it. Assuming its not a housing estate by then. Edited June 22, 2022 by BP1960 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Lee Sinnott said: Probably in a minority but I think I'd rather get relegated and play more northern sides than have to endure trips to the likes of Dorking, Bromley and Boring Wood... There is a high probability that this will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Pidge said: One thing Shahed mentioned was the way he called for money to be spent to arrange activities and entertainment for fans on match days. He was just ignored he said. I know the positive effect of a welcome from the club to fans on match day has been po pooed as having no effect on fan numbers by a certain person on here, but I suspect a lot would appreciate it. As I’ve mentioned before, a winning team brings a bigger crowd, a great experience keeps some of those coming back. It certainly would have helped OACT in the work they do. Specifically on match days before and half time too. I remember SI Brooke arranging a junior takeover day. Where youngsters applied for roles like assistant manager, director match day announcer too. Didn't cost much either Tons of other stuff too. Edited June 22, 2022 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 proper mad how l listened and heard him say that we put no effort in and don't even do the things that are free. somebody else listens to the exact same thing and hears an ignored plea to spend money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 5 hours ago, C.O.JONES said: Talking to an ex Latics manager last week and he seems to think we will be relegated again, didn't give me any specific reason why though. 2 hours ago, disjointed said: There is a high probability that this will happen. Strange train of thought, unless we are due a massive points deduction we won't be anywhere near the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 An interesting listen, particularly to hear another 'take' on the whole mess. What I took from it was that although Abdallah's made a right balls up of it, we were well and truly fucked anyway before he came in. I thought Andy's line of questioning was very good, but the other guy seemed determined to blame Abdallah for everything and less open to look at the fact that the club was a basket case anyway. I'm not sticking up for Abdallah in any way, and the day he leaves can't come soon enough, but I can't see anyone buying it in it's current state, and the current and previous owners are all equally culpable as to where we are now in my view. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, Steve_R said: An interesting listen, particularly to hear another 'take' on the whole mess. What I took from it was that although Abdallah's made a right balls up of it, we were well and truly fucked anyway before he came in. I thought Andy's line of questioning was very good, but the other guy seemed determined to blame Abdallah for everything and less open to look at the fact that the club was a basket case anyway. I'm not sticking up for Abdallah in any way, and the day he leaves can't come soon enough, but I can't see anyone buying it in it's current state, and the current and previous owners are all equally culpable as to where we are now in my view. I've said this before, but the previous owners aren't responsible for how Abdallah has treated the fans over the last 4 years. That is totally on him. Had he treated fans better then the club could be in a very different position despite all the financial issues. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, yarddog73 said: Strange train of thought, unless we are due a massive points deduction we won't be anywhere near the bottom. I wish I had your confidence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 6 hours ago, C.O.JONES said: Talking to an ex Latics manager last week and he seems to think we will be relegated again, didn't give me any specific reason why though. well.. most of our ex-managers know feck all about football, so I wouldn’t be too worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 7 hours ago, C.O.JONES said: Talking to an ex Latics manager last week and he seems to think we will be relegated again, didn't give me any specific reason why though. Could be something to do with us being really shit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, nzlatic said: I've said this before, but the previous owners aren't responsible for how Abdallah has treated the fans over the last 4 years. That is totally on him. Had he treated fans better then the club could be in a very different position despite all the financial issues. Oh definitely, The state of the club from when he took over to where it is now is down to him, but the reason why I see it being so hard to sell is down to the lot of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Lee Sinnott said: Probably in a minority but I think I'd rather get relegated and play more northern sides than have to endure trips to the likes of Dorking, Bromley and Boring Wood... I bet the Chuckle Brothers and Chief Inspector Knacker agree with you 100% there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, nzlatic said: I've said this before, but the previous owners aren't responsible for how Abdallah has treated the fans over the last 4 years. That is totally on him. Had he treated fans better then the club could be in a very different position despite all the financial issues. Club signed off on an MOU with OASF 14 months ago. It was about fostering more honesty, open-ness and transparency on stuff like financials. The outstanding fan expectations from 2019. It was from the FSA good guidance piece of work that took me 18months of tooing and froing. One point I said scrap it. At least 2 meetings per season. None have happened and lots of other stuff has since happened that has made relationships worse. I believe it can only get better...when is another matter Edited June 22, 2022 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, underdog said: Club signed off on an MOU with OASF 14 months ago. It was about fostering more honesty, open-ness and transparency on stuff like financials. The outstanding fan expectations from 2019. It was from the FSA good guidance piece of work that took me 18months of tooing and froing. One point I said scrap it. At least 2 meetings per season. None have happened and lots of other stuff has since happened that has made relationships worse. I believe it can only get better...when is another matter Who do the club employ to take care of fan engagement do you know? We used to have a supporter liaison officer, is this still the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Who do the club employ to take care of fan engagement do you know? We used to have a supporter liaison officer, is this still the case? I have no idea TBH. The last liaison person I knew was Mark Lund But it would take much would it. A Iick of paint/art/muriels by Oldham College to brighten the place. I remember someone saying those pop up flags like a legend walkway. Look at getting a fanzone sorted on carpark somewhere where local business can pull up and ply their trade. Pies, pints, pin badges... Pre match entertainment. Did they not have a local dance troupe at one stage? Half time stuff like OACT do. Lots of stuff. Stuff fans could have helped with if the engagement was there. Oh well Edited June 22, 2022 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Who do the club employ to take care of fan engagement do you know? We used to have a supporter liaison officer, is this still the case? 9 minutes ago, underdog said: I have no idea TBH. The last liaison person I knew was Mark Lund But it would take much would it. A Iick of paint/art/muriels by Oldham College to brighten the place. I remember someone saying those pop up flags like a legend walkway. Look at getting a fanzone sorted on carpark somewhere where local business can pull up and ply their trade. Pies, pints, pin badges... Pre match entertainment. Did they not have a local dance troupe at one stage? Half time stuff like OACT do. Lots of stuff. Stuff fans could have helped with if the engagement was there. Oh well Really wonder why people don't just check the "contact us" section of the website under "club" Like when everyone was asking who the safety officer was https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/club/contact-us/ SLO is Adam Street, he's just shit at it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 42 minutes ago, underdog said: Club signed off on an MOU with OASF 14 months ago. It was about fostering more honesty, open-ness and transparency on stuff like financials. The outstanding fan expectations from 2019. It was from the FSA good guidance piece of work that took me 18months of tooing and froing. One point I said scrap it. At least 2 meetings per season. None have happened and lots of other stuff has since happened that has made relationships worse. I believe it can only get better...when is another matter Didn't Lemsagam meet with members of the Trust board last season and then Morallee met with them? Or the other way round. There's your two meetings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Didn't Lemsagam meet with members of the Trust board last season and then Morallee met with them? Or the other way round. There's your two meetings... From memory Owner in 2019 (pre MOU), yes Moralle and Bowden in 2020 but not around MOU. MOU has an agreed agenda, stuff is discussed and agreed notes published. Usually around finances, fan engagement, any major changes like badges. I left in Jan so maybe they have held them since. I might have missed an update. I have asked if OASF meeting notes can be published before AGM too. Think Matt Dean has said he has been in contact with Adam though Happy to be correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 56 minutes ago, Chaddyexile84 said: Really wonder why people don't just check the "contact us" section of the website under "club" Like when everyone was asking who the safety officer was https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/club/contact-us/ SLO is Adam Street, he's just shit at it Sorry yes I should have said check website out. Cheers Chaddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, underdog said: From memory Owner in 2019 (pre MOU), yes Moralle and Bowden in 2020 but not around MOU. MOU has an agreed agenda, stuff is discussed and agreed notes published. Usually around finances, fan engagement, any major changes like badges. I left in Jan so maybe they have held them since. I might have missed an update. I have asked if OASF meeting notes can be published before AGM too. Think Matt Dean has said he has been in contact with Adam though Happy to be correct Sure Morallee and Lemsagam held an online meeting with a Trust director and the PTB after the initial protests in September time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 10 hours ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: Ridiculous comment. It wouldn’t be his first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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