oafcmetty Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, astottie said: Going to see them next week Saw them at Finsbury Park - very good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 11 hours ago, BP1960 said: And it seems the pitch is unplayable. The article is referring to the training pitches at ‘Boots & Laces’, but yes, I suspect the pitch at Roots Hall will be in need of attention too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Would take a point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Have BT announced their TV games yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, LaticsPete said: Have BT announced their TV games yet? It's not even called BT anymore. But, no, not yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 42 minutes ago, LaticsPete said: Have BT announced their TV games yet? Rebrands as TNT Sport on 18 July. I expect Kidderminster or Rochdale will be selected for opening day along with our title showdown with Chesterfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Rebrands as TNT Sport on 18 July. I expect Kidderminster or Rochdale will be selected for opening day along with our title showdown with Chesterfield. I fully expect us @ Chesterfield will be a TV game which, based on last year, means we won't be on TV before then and probably not soon after either. As both sides in last year's opening day TV game were relegated (Scunny and Yeovil) I don't mind not being a TV game first up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 hours ago, deyres42 said: Rebrands as TNT Sport on 18 July. Will I still be able to get on with my mates BT Sport login? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glossop Shrimper Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 20 hours ago, kowenicki said: The article is referring to the training pitches at ‘Boots & Laces’, but yes, I suspect the pitch at Roots Hall will be in need of attention 20 hours ago, kowenicki said: The article is referring to the training pitches at ‘Boots & Laces’, but yes, I suspect the pitch at Roots Hall will be in need of attention too. The RH pitch was relaid a few weeks ago. However, as the Chairman hasn't been paying the water rates either, let alone staff and everyone else, it seems the water will be turned off imminently! Thats what a couple of supporters were posting on our forum yesterday. Seriously, with the mire we're in you couldn't make this stuff up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 I'm not sure whether York will really be movers and shakers this season. The new owner is talking big (don't they always?) and they've made a couple of decent signings but they're in need of several players to make a big splash. Could be irritating if they hit form when we play them. Anyway I'll see them on Saturday against a Boro XI and see if anyone really impresses. https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/23647411.york-city-owner-matt-uggla-aim-high-transfer-plans/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 15 hours ago, Glossop Shrimper said: The RH pitch was relaid a few weeks ago. However, as the Chairman hasn't been paying the water rates either, let alone staff and everyone else, it seems the water will be turned off imminently! Thats what a couple of supporters were posting on our forum yesterday. Seriously, with the mire we're in you couldn't make this stuff up. That’s grim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 15 hours ago, Glossop Shrimper said: The RH pitch was relaid a few weeks ago. However, as the Chairman hasn't been paying the water rates either, let alone staff and everyone else, it seems the water will be turned off imminently! Thats what a couple of supporters were posting on our forum yesterday. Seriously, with the mire we're in you couldn't make this stuff up. l think it's against the players Human rights to turn off the water so you'll be ok with that one. don't think we paid ours for a decade or so until our integrity rode back into town last year. Good Luck today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 23 hours ago, Glossop Shrimper said: The RH pitch was relaid a few weeks ago. However, as the Chairman hasn't been paying the water rates either, let alone staff and everyone else, it seems the water will be turned off imminently! Thats what a couple of supporters were posting on our forum yesterday. Seriously, with the mire we're in you couldn't make this stuff up. What a nightmare. Not much point having a fit & proper owners test - as pathetically inadequate as that is - if the authorities then sit back and allow owners to run clubs into the ground. The NL and FA are useless. I hope things work out for you and that Southend live to fight another day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Worcester Owl said: What a nightmare. Not much point having a fit & proper owners test - as pathetically inadequate as that is - if the authorities then sit back and allow owners to run clubs into the ground. The NL and FA are useless. I hope things work out for you and that Southend live to fight another day. This always puzzles me. What is it that the relevant authorities are supposed to do when owners prove to be not the best guardians? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: This always puzzles me. What is it that the relevant authorities are supposed to do when owners prove to be not the best guardians? There is a world of difference between being “not the best guardians” and the kind of behaviour we’ve seen at clubs like Bury, Oldham, Southend etc. It’s hardly surprising that the impetus for an independent regulator has gathered pace in recent years. There will always be alternative ownership options for clubs in crisis and what the “relevant authorities” should be prepared to do is to suspend the licence of owners where there is clear evidence of maladministration and oversee a change of ownership. The alternative is to sit back, do nothing, and see clubs eventually die. If owners have to pass an initial “fit and proper” test - as flawed as that has been shown to be - why would you not logically want to see fitness and propriety assessed on a continuing basis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Worcester Owl said: There is a world of difference between being “not the best guardians” and the kind of behaviour we’ve seen at clubs like Bury, Oldham, Southend etc. It’s hardly surprising that the impetus for an independent regulator has gathered pace in recent years. There will always be alternative ownership options for clubs in crisis and what the “relevant authorities” should be prepared to do is to suspend the licence of owners where there is clear evidence of maladministration and oversee a change of ownership. The alternative is to sit back, do nothing, and see clubs eventually die. If owners have to pass an initial “fit and proper” test - as flawed as that has been shown to be - why would you not logically want to see fitness and propriety assessed on a continuing basis? I know I'm not exactly talking my own book here, putting it mildly!, but is there any sector where regulation really works efficiently and effectively? Water, electric and, say it quietly, financial services and plenty of others have all seen egregious failures despite long established regulatory regimes. I just don't see it as being anything like the panacea that some do. Could be wrong, mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: I know I'm not exactly talking my own book here, putting it mildly!, but is there any sector where regulation really works efficiently and effectively? Water, electric and, say it quietly, financial services and plenty of others have all seen egregious failures despite long established regulatory regimes. I just don't see it as being anything like the panacea that some do. Could be wrong, mind. That's a very fair point and having spent much of my working life under the FCA and its predecessors I agree, regulation often does leave a lot to be desired. As the Roman poet Juvenal said, "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" (and he didn't even have the offside rule to worry about!). It is immensely difficult to save a club from the bad intentions/stewardship of a dodgy owner, but the effort has to be made. The FCA can ultimately put a firm or individual out of business, and nobody wants to see that happen to football clubs. I wonder whether a bond of, say, 6 months' operating costs should be required of any new owner, to be held by a regulator as a safety net so that, in the event of an owner being barred from running the club, the bond would give a breathing space in which the club could continue to exist while a sale process was undertaken. I do accept there are no easy answers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Chesterfield v Latics moved to Saturday lunch time and live on TNT, no major surprise there. A shame it’s not an evening game though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Other live fixtures on TNT Sports: Saturday, August 5 – Rochdale v Ebbsfleet United (5.30pm) Saturday, August 12 – Dagenham & Redbridge v Southend United (5.30pm) Saturday, August 19 – Chesterfield v Oldham Athletic (12.30pm) Saturday, August 26 – Hartlepool United v AFC Fylde (5.30pm) Monday, August 28 – Eastleigh v Aldershot Town (3pm) www.thenationalleague.org.uk/tnt-sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, LaticMark said: Other live fixtures on TNT Sports: Saturday, August 5 – Rochdale v Ebbsfleet United (5.30pm) Saturday, August 12 – Dagenham & Redbridge v Southend United (5.30pm) Saturday, August 19 – Chesterfield v Oldham Athletic (12.30pm) Saturday, August 26 – Hartlepool United v AFC Fylde (5.30pm) Monday, August 28 – Eastleigh v Aldershot Town (3pm) www.thenationalleague.org.uk/tnt-sports Annoyingly, the season pass is not available yet. No indication of pricing either. The half season pass was 80 pounds last year so 160 is currently sitting about $300. Not bad for 46 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Worcester Owl said: That's a very fair point and having spent much of my working life under the FCA and its predecessors I agree, regulation often does leave a lot to be desired. As the Roman poet Juvenal said, "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" (and he didn't even have the offside rule to worry about!). It is immensely difficult to save a club from the bad intentions/stewardship of a dodgy owner, but the effort has to be made. The FCA can ultimately put a firm or individual out of business, and nobody wants to see that happen to football clubs. I wonder whether a bond of, say, 6 months' operating costs should be required of any new owner, to be held by a regulator as a safety net so that, in the event of an owner being barred from running the club, the bond would give a breathing space in which the club could continue to exist while a sale process was undertaken. I do accept there are no easy answers. I agree. I've put up the bond idea many times. That seems like a very straightforward solution to me. Minimal monitoring required 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 TNT must have some confidence in Southend actually starting the season then or maybe they aren’t aware they could be kicked out the NL today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/11/2023 at 1:10 PM, deyres42 said: Rebrands as TNT Sport on 18 July. I expect Kidderminster or Rochdale will be selected for opening day along with our title showdown with Chesterfield. ITK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 minute ago, deyres42 said: ITK Took some working out that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 3 hours ago, daniel said: Chesterfield v Latics moved to Saturday lunch time and live on TNT, no major surprise there. A shame it’s not an evening game though. Reckon the plod have had a say on that as I'm sure they will if the game at Spotland gets picked for TV I'd expect that to be a 12:30pm game too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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