nzlatic Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Shrek said: Not sure on paying a fee for a right back. It's the position of the talentless. Plenty of right backs out there for free. I'd rather we spent all our tranfers fees on a centre back or top left winger. I'd say the opposite. Needs must - last season one of our massive weak spots was the lack of a natural right full/wing back. No offence to Will Sutton who did a very decent job for the team out of position. It's the key position we need sort out this summer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, nzlatic said: I'd say the opposite. Needs must - last season one of our massive weak spots was the lack of a natural right full/wing back. No offence to Will Sutton who did a very decent job for the team out of position. It's the key position we need sort out this summer. Doesn't need a transfer fee spending on it. One or two actual right backs on a free would be fine. There will be dozens good enough out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Shrek said: Not sure on paying a fee for a right back. It's the position of the talentless. Plenty of right backs out there for free. I'd rather we spent all our tranfers fees on a centre back or top left winger. 27 minutes ago, Shrek said: Doesn't need a transfer fee spending on it. One or two actual right backs on a free would be fine. There will be dozens good enough out there. Position of the talentless? No. There will be dozens good enough out there. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, nzlatic said: I'd say the opposite. Needs must - last season one of our massive weak spots was the lack of a natural right full/wing back. No offence to Will Sutton who did a very decent job for the team out of position. It's the key position we need sort out this summer. We do need to sort the position out, especially if DU is going to play wing backs. As while Sutton did a reasonable job as a RB in a back 4, he was poor when asked to play RWB as part of a defensive unit with 3 CBs. I'm not sure we need to spend a transfer fee on a RB/RWB/RM though. But it might be the cheaper option to do that and pay less in wages. We may not need more than 1 player there though, as we have a number of players who will be reasonable as either a RB or a RWB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) oppo left sided players are often the best and or most experienced in their team, RB is hugely important. shreks talkin shite on this one, if we are buying then we are buying not sure how that's sumat to whinge about. Edited June 14, 2023 by Monty Burns 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Of course we need a quality RB or RWB. It’ll give us width and attacking threat on both sides of our team. Same applies to a LW although I’m sure Couto could evolve into that role. Sutton was a more than capable RB but struggled at RWB. We need an engine up & down that flank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, Midsblue said: Of course we need a quality RB or RWB. It’ll give us width and attacking threat on both sides of our team. Same applies to a LW although I’m sure Couto could evolve into that role. Sutton was a more than capable RB but struggled at RWB. We need an engine up & down that flank l reckon we will sign a LW RB CB and probably another midfielder depending on what he does with Rooney, maybe even anyway. l agree on Couto coming thru at LW and also think Green will play there sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 basically we are already four players away from a decent full squad and they aren't even back trainin how fuckin mint is that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 9 hours ago, TheBigDog said: Position of the talentless? No. There will be dozens good enough out there. No. There will be plenty of right backs out there available and affordable who will enhance us. It's a priority position at the moment along with Centre back then I'd ne happy to go with our defensive options for the season. As the front line is also fine it would mean just the midfield which itself currently looks competent but probably just needs another in there who can create. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 11 hours ago, Shrek said: Doesn't need a transfer fee spending on it. One or two actual right backs on a free would be fine. There will be dozens good enough out there. 10 hours ago, rudemedic said: We do need to sort the position out, especially if DU is going to play wing backs. As while Sutton did a reasonable job as a RB in a back 4, he was poor when asked to play RWB as part of a defensive unit with 3 CBs. I'm not sure we need to spend a transfer fee on a RB/RWB/RM though. But it might be the cheaper option to do that and pay less in wages. We may not need more than 1 player there though, as we have a number of players who will be reasonable as either a RB or a RWB. I suppose technically we don't "need" to pay a fee for any player given the amount of free transfers available in all positions. But if the right player identified is one that needs a fee, then we need to pay it. Rather than get someone in who is "fine" but on a free. I'd be surprised if we play 442 with touchline hugging wingers next season, so an attacking right back/wing back is the key signing for us this summer in my opinion. So I'm fine if we have to pay for that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlion Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Oh the luxury of being able to pay fees and pick and choose the perceived better players. What ? Am I dreaming ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Latics in 'advanced stage' of talks with Gateshead midfielder Dan Ward and ex-Preston and Motherwell right back Liam Grimshaw, according to this week's Oldham Times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, LaticMark said: Latics in 'advanced stage' of talks with Gateshead midfielder Dan Ward and ex-Preston and Motherwell right back Liam Grimshaw, according to this week's Oldham Times. lve heard of both lets fuckin do this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, LaticMark said: Latics in 'advanced stage' of talks with Gateshead midfielder Dan Ward and ex-Preston and Motherwell right back Liam Grimshaw, according to this week's Oldham Times. Plays for Morton according to this... https://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/23544559.morton-player-year-liam-grimshaw-play-1m-usa-tournament/ Edited June 15, 2023 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Plays for Morton according to this... https://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/23544559.morton-player-year-liam-grimshaw-play-1m-usa-tournament/ Player of the year. Highly rated by the fans. Comes from Burnley, so he'd be coming closer to home. Started at United. I think, on the face of it, this would a cracking signing, much better than the lad at Halifax, who has played a relatively modest number of games in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 49 minutes ago, bigfatjoe1 said: Player of the year. Highly rated by the fans. Comes from Burnley, so he'd be coming closer to home. Started at United. I think, on the face of it, this would a cracking signing, much better than the lad at Halifax, who has played a relatively modest number of games in his career. Signing other clubs current players of the season might not be a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, nzlatic said: I suppose technically we don't "need" to pay a fee for any player given the amount of free transfers available in all positions. But if the right player identified is one that needs a fee, then we need to pay it. Rather than get someone in who is "fine" but on a free. I'd be surprised if we play 442 with touchline hugging wingers next season, so an attacking right back/wing back is the key signing for us this summer in my opinion. So I'm fine if we have to pay for that. I see both sides of the arguement here. If player x is a quality right back and there is room in the budget- then yes pay a fee. If the budget only allows a fee for one more player I’d spend it on a midfielder/centre half over a right back any day of the week. The spine is always more important than width. Edited June 15, 2023 by League one forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 I'm content the club will make the right decision in respect of fee v. free agent. Had been wondering, as with others, about the number of fees we've paid since Frank came in, think there's a few. I imagine you may have to wait longer for free agents as they weight up different options and their agent touts them round. Might be that where you pay a fee you can get the player, or the type of player, you want in quicker. As @Monty Burns says, having a settled squad for pre-season is very exciting and means we should hit the ground running on 5 August. Financially as well if it's in the region of £50k which was rumoured with Lundstram you can price it into the budget for a player in that position. Over the course of a 2 year contract 50k, or £500 a week, doesn't sound very much. Which is why I should never be CFO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, League one forever said: I see both sides of the arguement here. If player x is a quality right back and there is room in the budget- then yes pay a fee. If the budget only allows a fee for one more player I’d spend it on a midfielder/centre half over a right back any day of the week. The spine is always more important than width. Never mind the quality, feel the width. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 28 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Never mind the quality, feel the width. Big up yourself BP60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, BP1960 said: Signing other clubs current players of the season might not be a bad idea. It's a transfer strategy I can get on board with There actually being a transfer strategy at all is a novelty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: It's a transfer strategy I can get on board with There actually being a transfer strategy at all is a novelty Except if other clubs use the same strategy and sign our player of the season...oh hang on a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Except if other clubs use the same strategy and sign our player of the season...oh hang on a minute. I think you will know that our clubs player of the season this year does not equate with many other clubs POTS. Next year however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Except if other clubs use the same strategy and sign our player of the season...oh hang on a minute. Then we sign him back again. It's genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Shrek said: Doesn't need a transfer fee spending on it. One or two actual right backs on a free would be fine. There will be dozens good enough out there. It's not your money is it, so if Frank wants to spend some cash on a right back which the management team think will improve us then it's fine with me whoever it is. If then he wants to spend on a centre back that's also fine. I wish some fans would stop taking like it's their money.... Edited June 15, 2023 by Londonboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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