yarddog73 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I think we will see more signings 2 permanent 2 quality loanees We are a million miles away from previous seasons at this stage, can't fault the recruitment one bit nor the approach to those who may not fit in to what we are trying to build, I'd rather wait a week or two than rush a signing through if better becomes available. I think some of our fans will be pleasantly surprised by our new signings all of them are an upgrade on what we had, Lundstrum and Ward will give the team the energy and drive it lacked last season, personally I'd like the next couple to be proven a bit higher especially the right back, someone like Elliot Bennett fits the bill who Shrewsbury have released and replaced him with Winchester, I have faith in the recruitment process and it appears to be being done in a considered way for a change, hopefully we will see the benefit of this at the start of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: I keep reading similar to this but I don't get it. We've added two midfielders from our own league who don't look like they'll add any significant quality, Hobson (a move that was possibly forced due to Yarney leaving) and an exciting, but very obvious, striker from the league below and are still without a right back and look very thin on the ground in defence generally. Other than being done quite early by the standards we're used to how does that represent "a lot more structure than previous seasons"....? Have you seen Ward and Lundstram often enough to warrant your statement about not adding quality to the squad? Both are a good age, with previous clubs sad to see them go, and I doubt they’ll be on huge wages. I agree with the above, that they appear to be on a upward trajectory whilst being relatively low risk in that they won’t be on a fortune. Hobson was in team of the season, and is another one where his previous club didn’t want him to leave. I actually prefer this strategy to signing 30+ year olds with experience who are looking for a pay day, ala Rooney and lots of others in previous years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: I keep reading similar to this but I don't get it. We've added two midfielders from our own league who don't look like they'll add any significant quality, Hobson (a move that was possibly forced due to Yarney leaving) and an exciting, but very obvious, striker from the league below and are still without a right back and look very thin on the ground in defence generally. Other than being done quite early by the standards we're used to how does that represent "a lot more structure than previous seasons"....? What makes you think that Lundstrum and Ward don't add any extra Quality? I think both will do really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 16 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: I'd rather wait a week or two than rush a signing 'Arry shuda waited a week or two before rushing his post out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 30 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: I keep reading similar to this but I don't get it. We've added two midfielders from our own league who don't look like they'll add any significant quality, Hobson (a move that was possibly forced due to Yarney leaving) and an exciting, but very obvious, striker from the league below and are still without a right back and look very thin on the ground in defence generally. Other than being done quite early by the standards we're used to how does that represent "a lot more structure than previous seasons"....? It's June 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 57 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: I keep reading similar to this but I don't get it. We've added two midfielders from our own league who don't look like they'll add any significant quality, Hobson (a move that was possibly forced due to Yarney leaving) and an exciting, but very obvious, striker from the league below and are still without a right back and look very thin on the ground in defence generally. Other than being done quite early by the standards we're used to how does that represent "a lot more structure than previous seasons"....? There's been quite a few recent seasons where we could barely raise an XI a week before the season started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Fully expecting a swimsuit parade of new signings at the fans forum tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, JohnnyPimp said: Fully expecting a swimsuit parade of new signings at the fans forum tonight. Scenes when the new right back is paraded, a very special talent - welcome back Dylan Fage.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Let's be honest @HarryBosch. You want the cash splashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) With all this talk of improved structure, stability, Unsworth in/out, new players better than/no better than what we have, it would be interesting to see where we, as fans, in one word are right now regarding our expectation for the season ahead. No elaboration, no reasoning, no if/then/else, just a one word reply using either optimistic or pessimistic. Me? Optimistic Edited June 29, 2023 by L1onheartNew 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: There's been quite a few recent seasons where we could barely raise an XI a week before the season started Exactly. We haven't even started pre-season and there's 4 good players come in. We already had a decent squad together anyway so there's no need to rush into signings, and there's no transfer deadline. Why are some people so reactionary It's the best position we've been in pre-season for a long time Edited June 29, 2023 by Guy Branston Pickle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Scenes when the new right back is paraded, a very special talent - welcome back Dylan Fage.... is he fast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: is he fast? That reminds me of an old cartoon of a batsman walking out to the crease and asking the wicket keeper keeping behind 30 sandbags the same question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: I keep reading similar to this but I don't get it. We've added two midfielders from our own league who don't look like they'll add any significant quality, Hobson (a move that was possibly forced due to Yarney leaving) and an exciting, but very obvious, striker from the league below and are still without a right back and look very thin on the ground in defence generally. Other than being done quite early by the standards we're used to how does that represent "a lot more structure than previous seasons"....? If you really believe your last sentence you would appear to be in a minority of one !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 hours ago, HarryBosch said: I hope they're really good but I don't see how/why Lundstram & Ward will be any better than what we've got/what they're replacing. Shelton & Sheron are both better players on paper and look how bad they've been on grass (Sheron did come on a bit to be fair). They all look like cheap gambles and we've gone from signing Conference players who'd previously had success in the league (which didn't work) to Conference players who haven't had success in this league. I don't follow the logic in why that would result in us doing better. I like the signing of Willoughby. Someone who could be a goalscorer & hero is a gamble that's always worth taking but, again - he is a gamble. If Hobson isn't any good we'll be very short in defence. Especially if Hogan continues to be injured as often as last season. We still need the 3 or 4 known quantities we needed back in August for me to go into the season with genuine optimism rather than just blind hope. Or directions to where I can get some of the Kool-Aid a lot seem to be drinking. This season is a huge opportunity to get promoted from what currently looks a weak league (it might not be next season, or the season after that) and, you can never guarantee it but, we're not showing anything like the intent I thought we would to give ourselves the best possible chance. I don’t really agree with much of this. “If Hobson isn’t any good…” a particular highlight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 56 minutes ago, L1onheartNew said: With all this talk of improved structure, stability, Unsworth in/out, new players better than/no better than what we have, it would be interesting to see where we, as fans, in one word are right now regarding our expectation for the season ahead. No elaboration, no reasoning, no if/then/else, just a one word reply using either optimistic or pessimistic. Me? Optimistic Upbeat Or Unanxious (for the first time in...ever?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 hours ago, HarryBosch said: I get the impression though (hopefully wrongly) that we're pretty much done once we've got a right back..... The manager said at the last forum that they'd be adding 9 players over the summer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 59 minutes ago, L1onheartNew said: With all this talk of improved structure, stability, Unsworth in/out, new players better than/no better than what we have, it would be interesting to see where we, as fans, in one word are right now regarding our expectation for the season ahead. No elaboration, no reasoning, no if/then/else, just a one word reply using either optimistic or pessimistic. Me? Optimistic Bullish I feel this will be first time in over 20 years I will be going into a season Expecting not hoping (or more accurately clutching at straws) that we will be in the promotion mix come the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Re Hobson from a proper source. Yeah hobson. It was a weird one cos he divided opinion amongst fans and even when some of the boys have come to watch they didn’t think he was good which i could never understand. All of us in the team rate him highly and he made team of the season for our league so definitely a good signing in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 38 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Bullish I feel this will be first time in over 20 years I will be going into a season Expecting not hoping (or more accurately clutching at straws) that we will be in the promotion mix come the end of the season. I've only ever backed us to win the league once. 1991, 14/1. I've steamed in this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Q: Have we made any enquiries about loan players yet? DU: No. I think it was necessary last year when I came in, the squad in my opinion at the time needed major heart surgery. The way we did that last season was loaning players. Some came off, some didn't. The health of the club now is that we don't need to enter that market. We might need to but what we've targeted is a smaller nucleus of players. I want a core group to work with from day one. At the moment we haven't looked at (loans) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Comment at 8.24 by DU, in response to the question of a right back coming in, basically just talks about will Sutton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 37 minutes ago, Gaz_Oafc said: Q: Have we made any enquiries about loan players yet? DU: No. I think it was necessary last year when I came in, the squad in my opinion at the time needed major heart surgery. The way we did that last season was loaning players. Some came off, some didn't. The health of the club now is that we don't need to enter that market. We might need to but what we've targeted is a smaller nucleus of players. I want a core group to work with from day one. At the moment we haven't looked at (loans) Didn't he say we might sign a couple of loanees last week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, bigfatjoe1 said: Didn't he say we might sign a couple of loanees last week? He's also just said he's happy to start with Sutton at Right Back.... *GULP* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggleblue Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, True Tic said: Comment at 8.24 by DU, in response to the question of a right back coming in, basically just talks about will Sutton This year I felt we had a real chance of promotion but when your manager wants to "develope" a good young c.b into a right back you know you've no chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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