yarddog73 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 This recruitment almost feels like an afterthought to me, not the way it was sold that's for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, yarddog73 said: This recruitment almost feels like an afterthought to me, not the way it was sold that's for sure. In a way it does but when you think Ward, Lundstram and green all out pretty much immediately that’s a big hole in the team, and the main one which needed addressing from last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, BJBlue said: Mental. lve played with him he's a fuckin nightmare!!! B0nd l mean, not Tunnicliffe!!! B0nd maybe played with him, calls him Ryan n shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 If we sign a midfielder because we have an injury crisis then it's bad planning. If we have more strikers than we can play because they're all fit then it's bad planning. It's almost as if it doesn't actually matter what Unsworth and his team do, those positions are entrenched. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, longtimeblue said: I think we only lost out to Colclough because Chesterfield paid more. Not sure where this rumour came. Norwood's had a drink driving ban I think this was a pretty big reason why we got him, as he lives in Manchester and still on his ban as far as I'm aware. He was relying on lifts from teammates to Barnsley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: I suppose Freeman played with Tunnicliffe for last two seasons, occasionally Yep - another short term contract would work I think He's a bloody good player at our level if it's him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy55555 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 So when everyone's fit we will have 6 CMs 'fighting' for 2 places to go with our 6 strikers and 5 centre backs. Surely not a sustainable number of players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 54 minutes ago, longtimeblue said: This isn't a hijack every topic Unsworth out post... But, I am struggling to get the same level of excitement I'd normally get when a "big name" is incoming. Exactly the same here. I was buzzing when Norwood signed. 2 weeks on I'm flattened and any signing, no matter how good, seems utterly pointless until our real problem is addressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Steve_R said: It all seems a bit strange that Unsworth has banged on about a good pre season since he got here, said he was doing all his business early at the end of last season, now we seem to be in a mad scramble to bring in more new players every week. And the shining lights in the 5-1 win were the 3 lads who'd arrived last minute and played little or no part in pre season All part of the (AMAZING!) sTrucTurED rECruiTMenT StrATegy no doubt Edited August 17, 2023 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, BJBlue said: Mental. Supposedly no one ever actually wants us to lose. They want to be proven wrong etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, nzlatic said: If we sign a midfielder because we have an injury crisis then it's bad planning. If we have more strikers than we can play because they're all fit then it's bad planning. It's almost as if it doesn't actually matter what Unsworth and his team do, those positions are entrenched. Ironically you hold one of the more entrenched positions on here, at least my opinion flips. I can handle being called fickle but entrenched nah thats you and the other well known apologists. Just now, nzlatic said: Supposedly no one ever actually wants us to lose. They want to be proven wrong etc. And bang on cue..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Ironically you hold one of the more entrenched positions on here, at least my opinion flips. I can handle being called fickle but entrenched nah thats you and the other well known apologists. And bang on cue..... The problem is, you seem to think that anyone who doesn't agree with you must hold the exact opposite opinion. Which is bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, nzlatic said: The problem is, you seem to think that anyone who doesn't agree with you must hold the exact opposite opinion. Which is bollocks. You'd be wrong again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, yarddog73 said: You'd be wrong again.... What's my supposed entrenched position then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 34 minutes ago, nzlatic said: If we sign a midfielder because we have an injury crisis then it's bad planning. If we have more strikers than we can play because they're all fit then it's bad planning. It's almost as if it doesn't actually matter what Unsworth and his team do, those positions are entrenched. It’s not that, it just seems at odds with what he was saying before. Trimming the squad and getting all the signings in early so they’re ready to when the season starts. Now we’re heading for a bloated squad again with a few of them not fit because they’ve had no pre season. If it all works out fine then happy days, but we can’t carry signing players every time someone gets injured surely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Gaz_Oafc said: He's also been done for smashing his range rover into a van pissed up years back. Couple of my relatives grew up with him. Apparently had all the talent in the world but had too much too young and was a became a bit of a dick with it. Interesting that Paddy says the original source is Brad Knowles and he's just tweeted a free agent list with Ryan Tunnicliffe on it... IIRC it wasn't just a van he damaged a house too. Fortunately he didn't kill someone given the impact to a house. I heard the stories about him being a dick too, but that was around the time he got done for drunk driving so it could be biased. 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: Used to drink in same pub as his dad a few years ago, nice enough fella Bay Horse? FWIW I would wager I saw him play as a kid, although I didn't realise it at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Steve_R said: It’s not that, it just seems at odds with what he was saying before. Trimming the squad and getting all the signings in early so they’re ready to when the season starts. Now we’re heading for a bloated squad again with a few of them not fit because they’ve had no pre season. If it all works out fine then happy days, but we can’t carry signing players every time someone gets injured surely. Personally I would have thought 4 strikers enough, but maybe when someone of Norwood's ability comes along you can't turn it down as it's such an upgrade? I would have said prior to the season starting we still needed a CM and a RB anyway. So I don't think those are knee jerk signings either. Another CM should in my view complete the squad and allow for decent competition all over the park. It shouldn't need signings to replace injuries after that. The headache will come when everyone is fit, but it's better to have that problem that no competition or no decent back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, rudemedic said: IIRC it wasn't just a van he damaged a house too. Fortunately he didn't kill someone given the impact to a house. I heard the stories about him being a dick too, but that was around the time he got done for drunk driving so it could be biased. Bay Horse? FWIW I would wager I saw him play as a kid, although I didn't realise it at the time. Would have been more up Summit end for me but he was a big Red so sure he would have been in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, nzlatic said: Personally I would have thought 4 strikers enough, but maybe when someone of Norwood's ability comes along you can't turn it down as it's such an upgrade? I would have said prior to the season starting we still needed a CM and a RB anyway. So I don't think those are knee jerk signings either. Another CM should in my view complete the squad and allow for decent competition all over the park. It shouldn't need signings to replace injuries after that. The headache will come when everyone is fit, but it's better to have that problem that no competition or no decent back up. We’ll he certainly needs to make this work pretty quickly now if this latest signing is true, given how much money we seem to be throwing at it. No excuses now, just get the job done Unsworth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, b0ndl1ne said: I really hope it is Tunnicliffe, I was going to suggest him weeks ago but did some digging and word was he was staying in League 1. Tunnicliffe and Lundstram would be a 7,578,923 billion % upgrade on SAS!! Do we really need another defensive midfielder? Unless DU is planning to play 5 at the back with 3 sat in front at Chesterfield. Quote from the net; 'Tunniclife is comfortable playing in a role that sees him just in front of the defence'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Steve_R said: We’ll he certainly needs to make this work pretty quickly now if this latest signing is true, given how much money we seem to be throwing at it. No excuses now, just get the job done Unsworth! Agreed. Everyone will have different views on what "job done" means, but I don't think anyone would think it means mid table this season. Playoffs minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Do we really need another defensive midfielder? Unless DU is planning to play 5 at the back with 3 sat in front at Chesterfield. Quote from the net; 'Tunniclife is comfortable playing in a role that sees him just in front of the defence'. He isn't going to get about but he also wont turn over the football at the rate our current midfielders do, he isn't an Unsworth type so I'd be surprised if it were him given we are paying a player with similar attributes to stay at home. On the plus side he is good on set pieces so if it means I don't have to see Tollitt crash a free kick in a dangerous position in to the first defender again then great. Apparently we've turned down others with chequered pasts so again I'd be surprised if we've caved in on those principles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 45 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Do we really need another defensive midfielder? Unless DU is planning to play 5 at the back with 3 sat in front at Chesterfield. Quote from the net; 'Tunniclife is comfortable playing in a role that sees him just in front of the defence'. It doesn't say that's the only role he's comfortable in? I've no idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 47 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Quote from the net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, BP1960 said: Do we really need another defensive midfielder? Unless DU is planning to play 5 at the back with 3 sat in front at Chesterfield. Quote from the net; 'Tunniclife is comfortable playing in a role that sees him just in front of the defence'. He gets all over the pitch as does Lundstram. Add Ward and that’s some midfield 3 who could retain possession until the cows come home. You could then tell Kitching and Freeman to bomb on more than they do now, play 3 strikers and play high up the pitch as a team. The only way it falls down is when the ball goes to Hogan who only passes sideways and you’re then reliant on Raglan passing into the midfielders - you don’t want the full backs having to come close to the centre half’s as that means they’re then too deep. You want them receiving the ball high up the pitch from the midfielders and wide and the 3 strikers all moving off the ball. Et voila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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