dannyboy55555 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Swap Nuttall for Ogle and Butterfield at Scunthorpe. Sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I said before the season started, I wasn't sure that the players we signed were going to be as good as the hype. I could of course still be proven wrong and i hope i am but Willoughby had only done well at a level below, Ward wasn't one of Gateshead's top performers, Lundstram had really only had the 1 good season at Alty and had previously failed to make the grade in League 2. There was a lot of unknowns regarding the majority of the signings, only really Norwood stood out as a marquee signing with Raglan playing a bit part at Cheltenham over the past couple of seasons and possibly on the wane. Hobson is the one signing that has impressed so far. I've previously questioned the amount of staff involved and the recruitment policy and I stand by that. There is no one person who actually takes responsibility for this and that in itself is a problem. The whole thing needs a rethink imo and we must make sure the new manager gets the chance to recruit on his terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggleblue Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Would love a creative C.M and a right full back, but where do you get them from? This should have been done under D.U last year. But then the man was inept as we all now know.It will be difficult for our next manager( hopefully Thompson) but we can but hope.Things can only get better...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, PeteG said: I said before the season started, I wasn't sure that the players we signed were going to be as good as the hype. I could of course still be proven wrong and i hope i am but Willoughby had only done well at a level below, Ward wasn't one of Gateshead's top performers, Lundstram had really only had the 1 good season at Alty and had previously failed to make the grade in League 2. There was a lot of unknowns regarding the majority of the signings, only really Norwood stood out as a marquee signing with Raglan playing a bit part at Cheltenham over the past couple of seasons and possibly on the wane. Hobson is the one signing that has impressed so far. I've previously questioned the amount of staff involved and the recruitment policy and I stand by that. There is no one person who actually takes responsibility for this and that in itself is a problem. The whole thing needs a rethink imo and we must make sure the new manager gets the chance to recruit on his terms. Which makes a decision to give it to Thompson till the end of the season a sensible one, he keeps it on the proviso we finish top 7 and he's backed with the four players he needs. Simple really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 31 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Which makes a decision to give it to Thompson till the end of the season a sensible one, he keeps it on the proviso we finish top 7 and he's backed with the four players he needs. Simple really. I think on balance this is where I am. Yesterday was really poor- but he’s 6 unbeaten. The target at the start of season was playoffs as a minimum, and he’s starting with a big deficit of one win in ten. If he can get the four or five he needs and finish top 7 after an awful start- he’s done well, and deserves another crack next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 57 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Which makes a decision to give it to Thompson till the end of the season a sensible one, he keeps it on the proviso we finish top 7 and he's backed with the four players he needs. Simple really. And what about Thompson? Giving him a short term contract with proviso's is hardly an incentive when there are plenty of 2/3 year contracts knocking around with bigger clubs if he is so well thought of within football circles as some have suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, whittles left foot said: And what about Thompson? Giving him a short term contract with proviso's is hardly an incentive when there are plenty of 2/3 year contracts knocking around with bigger clubs if he is so well thought of within football circles as some have suggested. If it doesn't work he could take up one of a number of offers we've been told he's rejected, any manager coming in needs to be working to immediate targets I can't bear another fucking project and on that basis managers need to be performing and the club holding the cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: And what about Thompson? Giving him a short term contract with proviso's is hardly an incentive when there are plenty of 2/3 year contracts knocking around with bigger clubs if he is so well thought of within football circles as some have suggested. Really? Whose said that? He’s been a number two wherever he’s been. He could walk into that role in the EFL, but in my view he’d snap our hand off for a deal till the end of season with the a clause for another year if he does well. He’s even said he’d love the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, yarddog73 said: If it doesn't work he could take up one of a number of offers we've been told he's rejected, any manager coming in needs to be working to immediate targets I can't bear another fucking project and on that basis managers need to be performing and the club holding the cards. There's also an argument for Thompson to steady the ship and then possibly move in to a Director of football role where we could bring in a younger more progressive coach to work under him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: There's also an argument for Thompson to steady the ship and then possibly move in to a Director of football role where we could bring in a younger more progressive coach to work under him. So he sorts out the problems and somebody else gets the gig? You are really selling the job. Would you be happy accepting that? Wasn't he already director of football and look where that has got us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: So he sorts out the problems and somebody else gets the gig? You are really selling the job. Would you be happy accepting that? Wasn't he already director of football and look where that has got us? Head of recruitment I think, as I've got to know him I like him, he's not stupid he knows the game and he probably understands he will need relative success and quickly. Biggest reasons for giving it him for the season are stability and financial. Players want him and the backroom staff would effectively stay the same, only extra finance would be the players he needs which any manager coming in is going to need and ask for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just a proper manager would suffice. Then we'd go shooting up the table... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 55 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Just a proper manager would suffice. Then we'd go shooting up the table... This for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 one or two centre mids, one or two wide players and poss a RB but Will is MoM every week plus Freeman so it has slipped in urgency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy55555 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: one or two centre mids, one or two wide players and poss a RB but Will is MoM every week plus Freeman so it has slipped in urgency. Freeman evaporated a few months back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, dannyboy55555 said: Freeman evaporated a few months back. Freeman's Hard(l)y Will (Sutton), is he? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Monty Burns said: one or two centre mids, one or two wide players and poss a RB but Will is MoM every week plus Freeman so it has slipped in urgency. I take it that was tongue in cheek? He's no right back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 ST says we need 4 players but this may not be realistic at this stage of the season. So here is my attempt to sort the squad/team out with minimum cost and personnel change... Play a 3-5-2. This is the starting line up with alternatives/back ups in brackets: GK - Hudson (Norman) or the other way round CD - Hogan CD - Raglan CD - Hobson (Sutton, Sheron, McGahey) LWB - Kitching (Dickenson, Couto) RWB - Shelton (Freeman) - a controversial one but if it isn't working out for him in midfield, lets play him in another position he's familiar with and also one we're short of players. If Freeman is fit and available then I'd have him in first. Ideally we'd need a new signing in this position, but if we want to save money or are struggling to get the right player, why not try this? CM - Lundstram... box to box (Shelton) CM - Sheron... holding CM - NEW SIGNING... creative passer (Gardner, Dickenson) CF - Norwood CF - whoever he plays best with (All the other strikers) Then we have the following players that might be suitable as change players, ie when a formation change is needed or we need to play in a different way - Hope, Tollitt, Ward, Green. So that's only one new signing, everyone playing roles they should be comfortable with and decent cover in almost all positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, wiseowl said: I take it that was tongue in cheek? He's no right back. he has easy been MoM at least twice, but yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: he has easy been MoM at least twice, but yeah. He’s obviously a good defender, and on Saturday won his battles, but my god going forward he’s dreadful. (Which isn’t his fault at it’s not his game) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: he has easy been MoM at least twice, but yeah. I’d argue he’s been MOM most times he’s played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, True Tic said: I’d argue he’s been MOM most times he’s played me too but lm tryin not to be such an extremist! people literally sit there thru 99% of a match ignoring what happens until somebody runs faster than him and then decide that means nothing else matters, never a RB 0/10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, League one forever said: He’s obviously a good defender, and on Saturday won his battles, but my god going forward he’s dreadful. (Which isn’t his fault at it’s not his game) dreadful is too far. he has made some great runs and sometimes puts a decent ball in for a lanky CB. often a teams best player is the LW.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, True Tic said: I’d argue he’s been MOM most times he’s played An argument that you would definitely lose … sides target our right side because they know that we are weak there - Sutton is no fullback 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: An argument that you would definitely lose … sides target our right side because they know that we are weak there - Sutton is no fullback andddddd there it is. you forgot to booooo and say 0/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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