Bluemood Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) We’ve had the same problem for the last few years now , most of our defensive & attacking problems stem from a poor midfield. Nobody to protect the defence and not one midfielder who can pass forward & create chances . Hogan , Hobson & Kitchin are more than good enough for this league . Norwood , Nutall & Reid good enough for this league , what’s missing !!!!!!!!! Edited October 25, 2023 by Bluemood 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bluemood said: We’ve had the same problem for the last few years now , most of our defensive & attacking problems stem from a poor midfield. Nobody to protect the defence and not one midfielder who can pass forward & create chances . Hogan , Hobson & Kitchin are more than good enough for this league . Norwood , Nutall & Reid good enough for this league , what’s missing !!!!!!!!! Bullseye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, Bluemood said: We’ve had the same problem for the last few years now , most of our defensive & attacking problems stem from a poor midfield. Nobody to protect the defence and not one midfielder who can pass forward & create chances . Hogan , Hobson & Kitchin are more than good enough for this league . Norwood , Nutall & Reid good enough for this league , what’s missing !!!!!!!!! Sorry, but Nuttall won’t make a decent footballer as long as he’s got a hole in his arse…half hearted, lazy and devoid of any sort of touch. It seems even Unsworth towards the end, Thompson & Mellon think similar because he’s hardly featured of late and now can’t even make the matchday squad….IMO he’s crap!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Gaz_Oafc said: Thought it was a bit strange how the team came out in just their kits (no jackets etc.) for the usual kick off time of 7:45 last night. Seemed like a good 5/10 mins before Fylde came out. Could we literally have been caught 'cold'? l'd say it could be contributory, aye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 53 minutes ago, Bluemood said: We’ve had the same problem for the last few years now , most of our defensive & attacking problems stem from a poor midfield. Nobody to protect the defence and not one midfielder who can pass forward & create chances . Hogan , Hobson & Kitchin are more than good enough for this league . Norwood , Nutall & Reid good enough for this league , what’s missing !!!!!!!!! Eminens only been here a few days but hopefully thomo nicely left the scouts info on them he was looking at and also Muzza would have told him. he's seen it twice now tho so something has to happen we need one certain player as literal open heart surgery aaarrrrggggjhhh!!!!!! sorry!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JED Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 8 hours ago, Lukers1 said: I’d have to go with that but the 6.0 defeat at Leeds in 84 was also a dark day!! I started a new job the following Monday, and found my new boss was a Leeds fan . Tommy Wright, Andy Ritchie (3), John Sheridan and Andy Lineghan scored their goals- I wonder what happened to them afterwards? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 EIEIEIO Soon as that's sang at a game we go to rat shit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 hours ago, True Tic said: Just had a look at the table - to think we were joint favourites for promotion at the start of the season… We were second favourites weren’t we? I take your point, it’s massively disappointing so far, but the odds will only have reflected weight of money staked. I like MM’s post-match interview. He looked embarrassed and was clearly hurting. Some are criticising him re use of subs - I suspect he thought the game was gone after the sending off, and wanted to see what the players on the pitch could do to turn things round. He got his answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I’ve slept on it and feel even more annoyed today! This squad is garbage, it is full of exactly the wrong type of modern young player…think they’re good because they have a pro contract at a “big” club and are not willing to put in the work required to improve, and god forbid anyone criticises the poor little snowflakes None of them are leaders on the pitch and I genuinely don’t think any of them really care, it’s just a job, they get paid in full regardless of their performance and they assume the manager will get fired way before they do. If any of them played a pro sport that relied on individual performance and paid out based on achievement (Golf, Tennis etc) this lot would feckin starve. This season is another write off and Mellon has a huge job on his hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Lee Sinnott said: He wasn't injured. He was doing running with the others not in the squad before the 16 came out to do their warm up. Of memory, it was Willoughby, Gardner, Nuttall, Raglan and another who I can't remember. Then the floodlights went out... Freeman Edited October 25, 2023 by LightDN123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Ritchierich said: I’ve slept on it and feel even more annoyed today! This squad is garbage, it is full of exactly the wrong type of modern young player…think they’re good because they have a pro contract at a “big” club and are not willing to put in the work required to improve, and god forbid anyone criticises the poor little snowflakes None of them are leaders on the pitch and I genuinely don’t think any of them really care, it’s just a job, they get paid in full regardless of their performance and they assume the manager will get fired way before they do. If any of them played a pro sport that relied on individual performance and paid out based on achievement (Golf, Tennis etc) this lot would feckin starve. This season is another write off and Mellon has a huge job on his hands. Whilst I agree with you that Mellon has a big job long term, the season is far from a write off. We are 5pts off the play-offs and I stand by my opinion that on the whole the league is crap. We've played 7 of the top 8 sides and not one of them has made me think we can't compete with these. It won't take a great deal of improvement to get in the top 7. If we can embark on another 8 game unbeaten run with 4 wins we should be right in it come Christmas. Chesterfield have sailed off and will most likely hit 100 pts but i'd say 4th - 7th is well within range for about 12 teams including us. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Ritchierich said: I’ve slept on it and feel even more annoyed today! This squad is garbage, it is full of exactly the wrong type of modern young player…think they’re good because they have a pro contract at a “big” club and are not willing to put in the work required to improve, and god forbid anyone criticises the poor little snowflakes None of them are leaders on the pitch and I genuinely don’t think any of them really care, it’s just a job, they get paid in full regardless of their performance and they assume the manager will get fired way before they do. If any of them played a pro sport that relied on individual performance and paid out based on achievement (Golf, Tennis etc) this lot would feckin starve. This season is another write off and Mellon has a huge job on his hands. There isn't a single point in that post that is based upon fact-just what you feel at the moment, none of which you can substantiate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 If Mellon is as good as many proclaimed upon his appointment then finishing top 7 shouldn't be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 11 hours ago, Charles or Eddie said: Where did I write that? My apologies, I read it wrong. You were referring to the team and the performance. I typed before the sensibility reached my brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, whittles left foot said: There isn't a single point in that post that is based upon fact-just what you feel at the moment, none of which you can substantiate. It’s a hunch, based on watching them play football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 12 hours ago, south east latic said: Some comments on here after Rochdale suggesting we’d go unbeaten for the rest of the season were laughable. Guilty as charged, your honour! I was a bit giddy after Rochdale away and thought that MM had instantly instilled some much needed "steel" as all the players were really "up for it". In view of the fact we had been unbeaten in 8 games since DU's departure, and now had real fight in us, I thought great; upwards and onwards. Unfortunately, the steel I saw turned out to be a mirage and last night it was more like liquid mercury. As bad as any Latics performance I`ve seen. Oh dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 9 hours ago, True Tic said: Just had a look at the table - to think we were joint favourites for promotion at the start of the season… It's out the window mate. We have to get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 hours ago, yarddog73 said: EIEIEIO Soon as that's sang at a game we go to rat shit. So true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Anyone thinking Sutton should play at CB, especially over Hogan is smoking something funny. Hogan was stupid last night but he's been playing well. Sutton gets destroyed by anyone running at him. Turns like an oil tanker. Gets outmuscled by wingers. He would get terrorised even more at CB his positional awareness is garbage. Honestly anyone not from our youth would get slaughtered as a few have said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only Blue Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 10 hours ago, mcfluff1985 said: Anyone thinking Sutton should play at CB, especially over Hogan is smoking something funny. Hogan was stupid last night but he's been playing well. Sutton gets destroyed by anyone running at him. Turns like an oil tanker. Gets outmuscled by wingers. He would get terrorised even more at CB his positional awareness is garbage. Honestly anyone not from our youth would get slaughtered as a few have said. He used to play decent at CB prior to being moved to RB and I remember he switched back there earlier in the season and instantly looked comfortable again. I agree his positional awareness is not good but you defend against a winger differently than you do a centre forward. He doesn't get out muscled he gets out paced as he is chasing a winger rather than battling with him. Regarding getting slaughtered your "appraisal" of his faults seems to be slaughtering him isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Just watched a replay of the game…it doesn’t get any better, it just confirms we were/are absolutely shite. Kitching backing off & backing off for the first and for the third Shelton giving the ball away for the umpteenth time are the standouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 34 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Just watched a replay of the game…it doesn’t get any better, it just confirms we were/are absolutely shite. Kitching backing off & backing off for the first and for the third Shelton giving the ball away for the umpteenth time are the standouts. I'm trying to think of something I'd like to have done less than that. Nothing comes to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 1 hour ago, oafc1955 said: Just watched a replay of the game…it doesn’t get any better, it just confirms we were/are absolutely shite. Kitching backing off & backing off for the first and for the third Shelton giving the ball away for the umpteenth time are the standouts. Masochist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 I wholeheartedly agree with other posters that most of this league is much of a muchness and anyone can beat anyone else on their day. I always worry about the performance after a big win and we were never at the races on Tuesday. I had hoped we would make a game of it in the second half but Hogan's needless sending off put paid to that. Just as I worry about the comedown after a big win, I am really hopeful we will see a reaction on Saturday to what was a terrible performance at Fylde in front of tremendous away support. I really like Will Sutton and think he will be a top player at a level higher than this but agree with others, his confidence has gone and he needs taking out of the firing line. However, in his and Kitching's defence I would say they seem to find themselves 1 on 1 with wingers more often than I would like to see. Shelton also needs a breather for the same reasons but he has had to play because of scant resources, hopefully that will start to ease shortly. Intrigued to see how we line up on Saturday, wouldn't be surprised to see the 4-1-4-1 that was successfully deployed at Rochdale. Surely it has to be Raglan for Hogan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Other than reverting to the passive attitude that has lead to so many flat performances, one other thing that got me about Tuesday was how little effort we put into shithousery. Hogan did a slight pull for that 2nd yellow and ended up getting sent off. But he got elbowed 2 or 3 times in that incident and if he'd gone to ground clutching his head or chest he might have got away with it. If his teammates had made a big fuss of it the ref might have even sent off the Fylde player as it was right in front of the lino. There was another incident in the first half where it looked like a late sliding foot up tackle on Hobson. Ref gave a foul. Hobson just stood up and got on with it, none of our players made a fuss. As much as it's admirable in a sense that they're playing honestly, the refs in this league are so easy to con but we just don't even try. The only time I think we did it was when Shelton made a meal of a normal tackle, the ref booked the Fylde player and Shelton got up, nowt wrong with him. It's no good playing nicely if no one else is and there's no reward for it as the refs fall for it every time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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