LightDN123 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Those praising Sheron are the same people complaining that the midfield has been crap for two years. He's got the most appearances for the period in which we all agree has been the worst central midfield we have seen. He also can’t pass or trap a football. He makes decent runs into the box, sometimes, can tackle and run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 15 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: Those praising Sheron are the same people complaining that the midfield has been crap for two years. He's got the most appearances for the period in which we all agree has been the worst central midfield we have seen. He also can’t pass or trap a football. He makes decent runs into the box, sometimes, can tackle and run. Nope, those praising Sheron are highlighting his attributes as well as his flaws. He has played in a poor midfield and needs to take his share of responsibility in that. However he’s an easy target. There has been over 90 league games in the last two seasons, but let’s highlight the ever present player . . while all the others become better by not playing. He has also played centre half and right back, all for the good of the team. His passing is poor, I don’t think anyone would argue. But equally not many midfielders scored 8 goals last season, with a couple of worldies. He’s a very useful squad player, but I know we need better for starting 11. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 29 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: Those praising Sheron are the same people complaining that the midfield has been crap for two years. No way of proving that statement one way or the other, but many seem to think he should be the first midfielder out the door (including Mellon, it seems...), when he should probably be the last. Based on how they've played for us, Sheron would be a bigger loss than Lundstram, Conlon, Hammond or Ward. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only Blue Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, LightDN123 said: Those praising Sheron are the same people complaining that the midfield has been crap for two years. He's got the most appearances for the period in which we all agree has been the worst central midfield we have seen. He also can’t pass or trap a football. He makes decent runs into the box, sometimes, can tackle and run. I think you have missed the point of what most posters are saying. League One has summed it up nicely. All we have tried to do is praise the attitude and commitment of a limited player . I can't recall many , if any , say keep him or are bothered if he goes and others have quite rightly pointed out that in order to get promoted we need better. It is possible to praise a poor player , you even managed to squeak out a bit of positivity in your last sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, League one forever said: Nope, those praising Sheron are highlighting his attributes as well as his flaws. He has played in a poor midfield and needs to take his share of responsibility in that. However he’s an easy target. There has been over 90 league games in the last two seasons, but let’s highlight the ever present player . . while all the others become better by not playing. He has also played centre half and right back, all for the good of the team. His passing is poor, I don’t think anyone would argue. But equally not many midfielders scored 8 goals last season, with a couple of worldies. He’s a very useful squad player, but I know we need better for starting 11. But he’s an ever present in a poor midfield ? Why so much admiration for such a limited footballer. I struggle to get my head around it, but all opinions I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, LightDN123 said: But he’s an ever present in a poor midfield ? Why so much admiration for such a limited footballer. I struggle to get my head around it, but all opinions I suppose. Just trying to give a more balanced view perhaps ? We all know his limitations but he's never "downed tools" like some of his peers ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 2 hours ago, LightDN123 said: But he’s an ever present in a poor midfield ? Why so much admiration for such a limited footballer. I struggle to get my head around it, but all opinions I suppose. You have to be outstanding to make up for poor partners in midfield. I think we can all agree Sheron is not an outstanding. Maybe he is OK at NL level. So he needs another 3 at OK NL level to be an OK midfield. You can hence see why we weren’t good enough at this level despite OK efforts on Sheron’s part. Actually rethinking that, far from making up for poor partners, Sheron was really poor when playing with partners performing poorly. He gets on the back foot, backing off the opposition and fails to stop them playing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Slowest. Revamp. Ever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 5 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Slowest. Revamp. Ever. I think history would suggest that it is hard to sign players whilst they are away at major tournaments. Let's be patient until after the final. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradKnowles1 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 3 hours ago, deyres42 said: Slowest. Revamp. Ever. It’s a bit bizarre at the moment usually we have seen two or three in who are our main targets. other clubs made signings we must have made the least of the clubs who can make signings. Hopefully we don’t get left with the scraps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Anthony Hartigan - now there’s a footballer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanMarshall's Mullet Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 2 hours ago, TheBigDog said: Anthony Hartigan - now there’s a footballer So are we trying to sign him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradKnowles1 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 10 hours ago, TheBigDog said: Anthony Hartigan - now there’s a footballer Barnets player of the season most passes in the division. Would definitely be an upgrade on Sheron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcassist Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 11 hours ago, TheBigDog said: Anthony Hartigan - now there’s a footballer TBD and the meaning is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradKnowles1 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Reckon this could be about us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronoafc Posted June 20 Author Share Posted June 20 15 minutes ago, BradKnowles1 said: Reckon this could be about us? I’m sure I read at the time Hobson signed for us that last minute he picked us over Accrington because of the money offered. Could be wrong. I can’t imagine he’d be earning anywhere close to 4.5k a week though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 He loves a social media moan, doesn't he? It's probably one player they were gazumped for and more likely related to business that's already happened like Tozer at FGR or York and Sinclair, who knows? Whilst we probably have offered attractive packages, the Rothwell family don't seem to operate in a reckless, bank-of-never-never style. I appreciate Norwood came with a hefty wage demands (he was a leading L1 striker, after all), but I'd guess they overall favour more longer term deals laced with performance bonuses instead of higher salaries. Anyway, they might take Nuttall off our hands, hopefully! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 16 minutes ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said: Anyway, they might take Nuttall off our hands, hopefully! He might like a moan but he ain't stupid. That's the figure I heard Norwood came in on so it wouldn't surprise me if he was referring to us. Saying that If he helped get us promoted next season it would still be money well spent. I reckon Hobson is on between 1500 and 2000 a week, same with Raglan. Nuttall is probably on more and the likes of Willoughby slightly less. Fylde wanted Willoughby as do Chester but they are only offering him half of what he's on now which is why he probably wants to stay and fight for his place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 9 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: He might like a moan but he ain't stupid. That's the figure I heard Norwood came in on so it wouldn't surprise me if he was referring to us. Saying that If he helped get us promoted next season it would still be money well spent. I reckon Hobson is on between 1500 and 2000 a week, same with Raglan. Nuttall is probably on more and the likes of Willoughby slightly less. Fylde wanted Willoughby as do Chester but they are only offering him half of what he's on now which is why he probably wants to stay and fight for his place. It's a budget busting mess Guess we'll have make the best of what we've got on a limited fund's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, BradKnowles1 said: Reckon this could be about us? Reckon that’s FGR given they signed Cheltenham and Wrexhams captains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 25 minutes ago, adamoafc said: Reckon that’s FGR given they signed Cheltenham and Wrexhams captains. FGR likely to be favourites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, Hemel latic said: FGR likely to be favourites? You'd think so but we were making signings like that last summer and erm... yeah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 36 minutes ago, Hemel latic said: FGR likely to be favourites? York City? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 2 hours ago, BradKnowles1 said: Reckon this could be about us? Accrington's average attendance last season was 2,560, ours was just shy of 7,000. I can't imagine why we wouldn't have a bigger budget. Yes, they will get more funding from central sources than we would but I'd imagine we would outstrip them commercially, or certainly should do! just shows that they are punching above their weight and us below ours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Accrington's average attendance last season was 2,560, ours was just shy of 7,000. I can't imagine why we wouldn't have a bigger budget. Yes, they will get more funding from central sources than we would but I'd imagine we would outstrip them commercially, or certainly should do! just shows that they are punching above their weight and us below ours. True, although I think they have sold and bought wisely. Whereas we have not been great in that aspect. Peterborough are another club who have been astute and IMO will make a small fortune when they sell new signings Conn-Clarke and Nevett in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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