OneSizeFitz Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 On 6/8/2024 at 10:02 PM, Littlemoor Lad said: Give over You're just making excuses for a load of overpaid lazy bastards lucky enough to be chosen to represent their country at a major tournament that can't even be arsed to break a sweat and show why they're wearing the shirt. There's so many parallels with what's been on offer at B.P it's astounding, After 58 year's of winning Jack shit, why all of a sudden do you think this clueless idiot has it in him to change that sorry statistic? We were literally a penalty shootout away from winning something... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 We are actually going into this tournament weaker than previous ones imo. The defence is a huge concern which seems to be ignored. Massive expectations for a team with a poor defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsEddie Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 12 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: We are actually going into this tournament weaker than previous ones imo. The defence is a huge concern which seems to be ignored. Massive expectations for a team with a poor defence. Going forward, I cant think of a better group of players in my lifetime. Serial winners, some of- if not- the best players in 3 of europe's top league's, strength in depth, most of the group are coming off the back of good seasons. But you're right the defensive frailty cant be ignored. We are looking really light and inexperienced. Stones, Walker and Shaw are the only ones I have full confidence in and 2 of those are injured. Hopefully Rice can keep up his great form this season and give the defence the cover it will certainly need along with whoever plays alongside him (probably Gallagher). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, LightDN123 said: We are actually going into this tournament weaker than previous ones imo. The defence is a huge concern which seems to be ignored. Massive expectations for a team with a poor defence. Exactly. We have no left back. Our most experienced centre half that hardly anyone rates anyway isn't there. His usual centre half partner has been injured for most of the season and possibly is now having gone off in the last game. The next batch of centre halves have been far from convincing and have little international or European experience. Thought Dier might have been brought back as an experienced head who has apparently done well in Germany Minimal chance for me but doubtless that will be Southgate's fault for many. Edited June 11 by Dave_Og Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick26 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Anyone watch Football Cops on channel 4 featuring our away game at Scunthorpe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Amazing that they picked all the Palace players and left out arguably the most consistent of the lot in Mitchell. Either him or the lad from Ipswich, Davis, should have been in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 22 minutes ago, mick26 said: Anyone watch Football Cops on channel 4 featuring our away game at Scunthorpe? The football liaison officer at Coventry had a minor heart attack a few years ago. His nickname now is “cardio”. Outrageous banter in the force these days. Fun times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, mick26 said: Anyone watch Football Cops on channel 4 featuring our away game at Scunthorpe? It's an OK watch but having seen the first 2 episodes it's pretty short on actual real action football grounds are generally alot safer these days police are smarter and everything is caught on CCTV anyway. Funniest bit was in the first episode where a police officer rang a Liverpool fans wife to tell him he's been arrested and caught in possession of cocaine. Someone has probably been divorced since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick26 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 52 minutes ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said: The football liaison officer at Coventry had a minor heart attack a few years ago. His nickname now is “cardio”. Outrageous banter in the force these days. Fun times. Ours who is featured alongside the Scunthorpe officer is a member on this board!(Not me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, mick26 said: Anyone watch Football Cops on channel 4 featuring our away game at Scunthorpe? I have watched the first two. What the program shows is how a relatively small number of fans can cause so much disruption. No wonder the cost of policing games is so high. The programme points out the main troublemakers are youngsters aged between 14 & 20. It also highlights how the actions of one or two can incite the rest. I’d arrest a lot more and issue long bans to the ringleaders - there should be no place for it anymore in the modern game. I would also come down hard on the fans in the ground who spend most of the match goading the opposition supporters. Zero tolerance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 16 minutes ago, mick26 said: Ours who is featured alongside the Scunthorpe officer is a member on this board!(Not me). Was going to say I'm sure I've seen that copper at a few of our games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) 26 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: I have watched the first two. What the program shows is how a relatively small number of fans can cause so much disruption. No wonder the cost of policing games is so high. The programme points out the main troublemakers are youngsters aged between 14 & 20. It also highlights how the actions of one or two can incite the rest. I’d arrest a lot more and issue long bans to the ringleaders - there should be no place for it anymore in the modern game. I would also come down hard on the fans in the ground who spend most of the match goading the opposition supporters. Zero tolerance. There's not that much bother though is there really? a few boneheads thinking they are the bollocks but nothing much. CCTV is everywhere these days plus things like social media and phones mean it's pretty easy for the police to come and find you if you are daft enough to cause trouble these days. Let's face the majority of us would rather spend our Saturday evenings either ranting about the game on the Internet, watching Netflix, In the pub with the lads, or shagging the Mrs than spending it in a cell hence why only a few muppets with no life would get into it these days. Edited June 11 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted June 11 Author Share Posted June 11 3 hours ago, Dave_Og said: Exactly. We have no left back. Our most experienced centre half that hardly anyone rates anyway isn't there. His usual centre half partner has been injured for most of the season and possibly is now having gone off in the last game. The next batch of centre halves have been far from convincing and have little international or European experience. Thought Dier might have been brought back as an experienced head who has apparently done well in Germany Minimal chance for me but doubtless that will be Southgate's fault for many. Should have taken Rico Lewis from City to cover left back. He came into England squad last year and did well and is fit! Can't believe Shaw will be fit enough as he last played mid Feb!! Centre half is a massive problem, and we will probably play a back 3 with Walker on the right side to try and compensate I guess, particularly in more difficult games and Gomez on the left, with Stones central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 14 minutes ago, Londonboy said: Should have taken Rico Lewis from City to cover left back. He came into England squad last year and did well and is fit! Can't believe Shaw will be fit enough as he last played mid Feb!! Centre half is a massive problem, and we will probably play a back 3 with Walker on the right side to try and compensate I guess, particularly in more difficult games and Gomez on the left, with Stones central. Trippier seems favourite. I think he's shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 12 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Trippier seems favourite. I think he's shot Agreed, the injury seemed to take a lot out of him towards the end of the season. I'm not overimpressed with Walkernowadays as he seems to be relying on his pace too much to get him out of trouble although I'd take him over Terrence Trent Darby who's defensively hopeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted June 11 Author Share Posted June 11 40 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Trippier seems favourite. I think he's shot Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsy Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Not on topic but work with a guy whose inherited some Latics memorabilia he’s got a few hundred programmes from about 89 ish to about 94 inc cup final v forest also think he’s got a few shirts around same period He’s after selling these if anybody knows anybody who might buy them or if your interested let me know and I will pass your details onto him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 2 hours ago, TheBigDog said: I have watched the first two. What the program shows is how a relatively small number of fans can cause so much disruption. No wonder the cost of policing games is so high. The programme points out the main troublemakers are youngsters aged between 14 & 20. It also highlights how the actions of one or two can incite the rest. I’d arrest a lot more and issue long bans to the ringleaders - there should be no place for it anymore in the modern game. I would also come down hard on the fans in the ground who spend most of the match goading the opposition supporters. Zero tolerance. They’re just normal men. Normal, innocent men. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, Bobledgersheart said: Agreed, the injury seemed to take a lot out of him towards the end of the season. I'm not overimpressed with Walkernowadays as he seems to be relying on his pace too much to get him out of trouble although I'd take him over Terrence Trent Darby who's defensively hopeless. I recall Southgate starting TAA in midfield a couple of years go at least and getting slated for it. Appears to have been proved right on that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 2 hours ago, TheBigDog said: I have watched the first two. What the program shows is how a relatively small number of fans can cause so much disruption. No wonder the cost of policing games is so high. The programme points out the main troublemakers are youngsters aged between 14 & 20. It also highlights how the actions of one or two can incite the rest. I’d arrest a lot more and issue long bans to the ringleaders - there should be no place for it anymore in the modern game. I would also come down hard on the fans in the ground who spend most of the match goading the opposition supporters. Zero tolerance. Zero tolerance of goading the opposition . . . mmmm. Inciting violence/throwing objects/ being a general dick absolutely. But goading the opposition. . that’s half the fun, and where is the line? If I flick the v’s in a moment of ecstasy and then start doing 2 - 1 with my fingers, I’m technically goading them. . but that’s what I go for. . the tribalism. Especially at big games. Without that, it would feel very sanitised and boring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 7 minutes ago, League one forever said: But that’s what I go for. . the tribalism. Especially at big games. Without that, it would feel very sanitised and boring. Seriously?….FFS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, Bobledgersheart said: Agreed, the injury seemed to take a lot out of him towards the end of the season. I'm not overimpressed with Walkernowadays as he seems to be relying on his pace too much to get him out of trouble although I'd take him over Terrence Trent Darby who's defensively hopeless. Seven More Days, and hopefully we'll be looking back on a win over Serbia. Let's Go Forward with confidence, there are no outstanding teams to fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, Worcester Owl said: Seven More Days, and hopefully we'll be looking back on a win over Serbia. Let's Go Forward with confidence, there are no outstanding teams to fear. I think we will get 7 points from the group games I can see us labouring abit in 1 of them. On the shortage of centre backs its a slight dissapointment from our point of view that James Tarkowski hasn't been picked. I suppose with England's style likely to mean we will most likely be defending on the half way line rather than the 18 yard line then his lack of pace will likely get exposed whereas if we were defending the box you can trust him to head it away as he does it better than anyone. Edited June 11 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 49 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Seriously?… Yeah. . why!?!? . . . maaaaad how we think differently isn’t it. 53 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: FFS!!! JCA!!!! The point Big dog made was, zero tolerance to all unsavoury behaviour including - goading. If you’ve ever sang a song at the opposition in celebration or in retaliation because they’re singing songs that take the piss - that’s technically goading them. Goading the opposition is the absolute lifeblood of every single football club, and why derbies (the height of goading) are loved and watched all over the world. It’s why big games sell out or sell a lot of tickets, because the vast majority want the atmosphere of goading and winding the oppo up. What we don’t want is 12 fans from Wealdstone and no atmosphere. Voilence of any kind is wrong. Goading and the tribal nature of football is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 50 minutes ago, League one forever said: Voilence of any kind is wrong. Ders more to Oireland… Dan diss. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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