League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 minute ago, deyres42 said: Not really, if the funds aren't there then they aren't there, just be honest about it. The funds are there, there’s only you who thinks they aren’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 4 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Not really, if the funds aren't there then they aren't there, just be honest about it. Strange you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Just now, League one forever said: The funds are there, there’s only you who thinks they aren’t. On one thread he will say we have no budget, on another he will complain that we overpay players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 4 minutes ago, League one forever said: The funds are there, there’s only you who thinks they aren’t. Why do you think we aren't spending them then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 29 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Genuine question, are there any examples of clubs refusing to do business with us on this principle? That’s a pretty daft question. If we approached a club that felt that way they’d probably just have said no. Rather than publish an open letter declaring their reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Just now, deyres42 said: Why do you think we aren't spending them then? Really. . ? 15 already under contract. 2 resigned 5 new players. Let’s say 2 to come in. Which is a squad of 24 and little bit over what Mellon said he wants squad size. That’s where the funds are and will be spent. What you mean is, you don’t think that squad of 22 soon to be 24 is good enough for promotion. You might be right, but that’s got nothing to do with are there funds available for a promotion push. That is you deciding that a slightly incomplete squad isn’t good enough before a ball has been kicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 3 hours ago, nzlatic said: To give a pretty basic example, because the lemsegams wasted what money they had on the likes of menig and others, and didn’t invest anything in the infrastructure of the club, the Rothwells had to use a good chunk of their money on that stuff and therefore had, and probably still have, less available to spend on the playing squad. I'm a big fan of Luke Rothwell, but there are still some serious teething issues within this football club that there was uproar for when the Lemsagams were here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 minute ago, Lee Sinnott said: I'm a big fan of Luke Rothwell, but there are still some serious teething issues within this football club that there was uproar for when the Lemsagams were here... Such as? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 minute ago, nzlatic said: That’s a pretty daft question. If we approached a club that felt that way they’d probably just have said no. Rather than publish an open letter declaring their reasons. OK. Just given that there seems to be this idea that there were scores of clubs refusing to deal with us on the basis of being a bit unreliable with paying on time I thought there might be some specific examples to hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 4 minutes ago, League one forever said: Really. . ? 15 already under contract. 2 resigned 5 new players. Let’s say 2 to come in. Which is a squad of 24 and little bit over what Mellon said he wants squad size. That’s where the funds are and will be spent. What you mean is, you don’t think that squad of 22 soon to be 24 is good enough for promotion. You might be right, but that’s got nothing to do with are there funds available for a promotion push. That is you deciding that a slightly incomplete squad isn’t good enough before a ball has been kicked. Right. There's no way anyone can look at those ins and outs and think we are spending the same on player wages as we were last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Right. There's no way anyone can look at those ins and outs and think we are spending the same on player wages as we were last season. Break it down for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 6 minutes ago, League one forever said: Such as? Such as the fans bar still being nothing short of a disgrace and paying 5.20 for a can of fosters in the ground... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: I'm a big fan of Luke Rothwell, but there are still some serious teething issues within this football club that there was uproar for when the Lemsagams were here... That’s where benefit of the doubt comes in. If the Rothwells have dealt with 80% of the to do list then you cut them some slack over the remaining 20%. The lemsagams did fuck all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 (edited) 9 minutes ago, deyres42 said: OK. Just given that there seems to be this idea that there were scores of clubs refusing to deal with us on the basis of being a bit unreliable with paying on time I thought there might be some specific examples to hand No one has suggested that. It’s been suggested there MIGHT have been reputation damage and that that sort of stuff MIGHT have been a factor. That was in response to people saying there was no issue. Edited July 29 by nzlatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Such as the fans bar still being nothing short of a disgrace and paying 5.20 for a can of fosters in the ground... I agree the catering and pricing needs looking at, but a disgrace?? A disgrace is not paying your staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 4 minutes ago, nzlatic said: No one has suggested that. It’s been suggested there MIGHT have been reputation damage and that that sort of stuff MIGHT have been a factor. That was in response to people saying there was no issue. OK, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Did anyone else think the idea of a board of professors was a bit strange?? I only know of the stats guy from Reading but got the feeling we are aiming for some kind of education set up which would align with DR past businesses. I'd rather them concentrate their immediate efforts on the pitch for the time being. They have the assets under the same roof and secured the short term future of the club but unless we get back in the EFL asap it will all mean nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 hour ago, League one forever said: Really. . ? 15 already under contract. 2 resigned 5 new players. Let’s say 2 to come in. Which is a squad of 24 and little bit over what Mellon said he wants squad size. That’s where the funds are and will be spent. What you mean is, you don’t think that squad of 22 soon to be 24 is good enough for promotion. You might be right, but that’s got nothing to do with are there funds available for a promotion push. That is you deciding that a slightly incomplete squad isn’t good enough before a ball has been kicked. Plus multiple players out on loan who we will be significantly paying for out of this seasons wage bill. Plus the players who have left whilst under contract, who will be on less at their new clubs and presumably we’ve had to top up, which is what generally happens. We’ll have the biggest budget in the league once again this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 I know the Lemsagams were a set of cunts who picked and chose when to pay the staff but it would be a bit rich holding them to account for not investing in the infrastructure when it was effectively owned by someone else, they came in you can argue with good or bad intentions but let's get it straight were sold down the river by Corney, it was never ever a viable business as all the income streams were being siphoned off over the Atlantic, they bought the badge and that was it and were set up to fail from the off. We keep hearing about how much the Rothwells are pumping in, that's nothing new our club and it's losses have been unsustainable for a couple of decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 24 minutes ago, daniel said: Plus multiple players out on loan who we will be significantly paying for out of this seasons wage bill. Plus the players who have left whilst under contract, who will be on less at their new clubs and presumably we’ve had to top up, which is what generally happens. We’ll have the biggest budget in the league once again this season. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 29 minutes ago, daniel said: Plus multiple players out on loan who we will be significantly paying for out of this seasons wage bill. Plus the players who have left whilst under contract, who will be on less at their new clubs and presumably we’ve had to top up, which is what generally happens. We’ll have the biggest budget in the league once again this season. We need better negotiatiors if that is the case... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 minute ago, deyres42 said: We need better negotiatiors if that is the case... Can you break it down for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Just now, League one forever said: Can you break it down for us? Of course. If we are footing the bill for moneybags Altrincham to use our player then that is bad negotiating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Unfortunately the budget will still be being affected by bad decisions made last summer, you could argue it will still take another 12 months for us to recover from the botched Unsworth project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 6 minutes ago, deyres42 said: We need better negotiatiors if that is the case... Not how it works though is it, or you end up with the likes of Nuttall and Willoughby still at the club and paying 100% of their wages because no one is stupid enough to pay Joe Nuttall 3k a week, except us. Questions needed asking last season about the transfer policy and our activity last year, but thats been done to death and we’re still paying for those mistakes until the end of the upcoming season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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