oafc1955 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 hours ago, deyres42 said: I don't think anyone can look at the recruitment so far this summer and think that to be the case. Would the signing of Stones and or Smith change your mind because I’m pretty sure we aren’t finished on the recruitment front just yet. It’s not all black n white, sometimes during preseason you have to wait for potential targets to become available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Of course. If we are footing the bill for moneybags Altrincham to use our player then that is bad negotiating. Oh sorry - you meant the negotiation. Didn’t realise you had moved onto something else in your head. No, I was asking if you could breakdown where you think the massive drop in the wage bill is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Of course. If we are footing the bill for moneybags Altrincham to use our player then that is bad negotiating. Come on, you're on the wind up here now aren’t you? It’s not how it works and you know it. Money bags Altrincham? Do you not think we tried getting the best deal for Oldham Athletic in this instance? Would you rather us fuck Altrincham off and Nuttall still be here with us paying 100% of wages, or us getting rid on loan and contributing 50% (guessing) and therefore having £1500 extra per week to now spend? Massive mistakes were made when we signed him, but we have no other option if we don’t want him at the club this season. I just hope we have learnt from these mistakes going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 57 minutes ago, PeteG said: Did anyone else think the idea of a board of professors was a bit strange?? I only know of the stats guy from Reading but got the feeling we are aiming for some kind of education set up which would align with DR past businesses. I'd rather them concentrate their immediate efforts on the pitch for the time being. They have the assets under the same roof and secured the short term future of the club but unless we get back in the EFL asap it will all mean nothing. Sounded as though we were just cheaply utilising the expertise of fans who had the club's interest at heart. Seemed logical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 minutes ago, League one forever said: Oh sorry - you meant the negotiation. Didn’t realise you had moved onto something else in your head. No, I was asking if you could breakdown where you think the massive drop in the wage bill is? Well I don't think free transfers from Newport and Fylde are going to be breaking the bank somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 4 minutes ago, daniel said: Come on, you're on the wind up here now aren’t you? It’s not how it works and you know it. Money bags Altrincham? Do you not think we tried getting the best deal for Oldham Athletic in this instance? Would you rather us fuck Altrincham off and Nuttall still be here with us paying 100% of wages, or us getting rid on loan and contributing 50% (guessing) and therefore having £1500 extra per week to now spend? Massive mistakes were made when we signed him, but we have no other option if we don’t want him at the club this season. I just hope we have learnt from these mistakes going forward. Altrincham have been better at recruiting than us over the past two years, if they want our player then maybe we should be asking are we doing the right thing letting him go? At the very least they should be paying full whack (they may well be) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKing521 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 I don’t know the bloke, but James Reade was a serial Abdallah sympathiser and was also a strong supporter of Unsworth. This ‘academic’ board sounds pointless and bloated. Just focus on winning some football matches FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 4 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Altrincham have been better at recruiting than us over the past two years, if they want our player then maybe we should be asking are we doing the right thing letting him go? At the very least they should be paying full whack (they may well be) I would agree they have been better at recruitment than us, the reason for that is they haven’t been stupid enough to pay 3 grand a week to donkeys like Nuttall. I 100% guarantee that Altrincham will not be paying 100% of Nuttall’s wages, because as I said above they aren’t stupid, and they cannot afford it. They’ve only been a FT club for 2-3 years and don’t get serious crowds for this level. This summer, i’m confident that we got the best possible deal we could for Joe Nuttall, which still means we have no option but to contribute significantly towards his wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 4 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Well I don't think free transfers from Newport and Fylde are going to be breaking the bank somehow. That’s a tiny fraction of the budget, what do you think the following earn? Monthe Hobson Rags Charsley Conlon Norwood Garner Id wager there is circa 20k a week (1 million a year) in those 7 alone. If you’re expecting a squad full of these players in non league with no EFL money then you’re genuinely deluded- it would cost £3-4 million a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 17 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Well I don't think free transfers from Newport and Fylde are going to be breaking the bank somehow. Also, by way of comparison- no owner in our history has come close to 3/4 million playing budget. So again, what you want or think is happening is pie in the sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 minutes ago, League one forever said: That’s a tiny fraction of the budget, what do you think the following earn? Monthe Hobson Rags Charsley Conlon Norwood Garner Id wager there is circa 20k a week (1 million a year) in those 7 alone. If you’re expecting a squad full of these players in non league with no EFL money then you’re genuinely deluded- it would cost £3-4 million a year. OK. And the ones that have left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 I’m starting to really struggle differentiating between genuine opinion and those on the wind up. It’s making this board a very difficult read sadly. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 32 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Unfortunately the budget will still be being affected by bad decisions made last summer, you could argue it will still take another 12 months for us to recover from the botched Unsworth project. Exactly- as was explained by Mellon months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 minute ago, League one forever said: Also, by way of comparison- no owner in our history has come close to 3/4 million playing budget. So again, what you want or think is happening is pie in the sky. I think you are arguing a different point. I'm not asking or expecting the owners to spend money they can't afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 17 minutes ago, League one forever said: That’s a tiny fraction of the budget, what do you think the following earn? Monthe Hobson Rags Charsley Conlon Norwood Garner Id wager there is circa 20k a week (1 million a year) in those 7 alone. If you’re expecting a squad full of these players in non league with no EFL money then you’re genuinely deluded- it would cost £3-4 million a year. Rags... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, deyres42 said: OK. And the ones that have left? You’re adamant that they’re cost cutting, and not telling us. This is despite you me and everyone else being told that the squad needed big changes and was far too big. Do you remember that?? I know you do because you hammer Mellon with the speech where he said it. Or are you getting your famous amnesia again. . We have a smaller squad- because that’s what Mellon wants. We aren’t signing 12 players to replace the 20 because that’s what Mellon wants. For your view to have any credibility you need to substantiate what you’re saying. How is doing exactly what they said they would do - cost cutting? Or is it like I said 15 pages ago, and you just don’t rate players you’ve never seen, in team that hasn’t played a competitive game in a squad that isn’t complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Just now, Lee Sinnott said: Rags... I like it. But not as much as Nors, or oggy, or Hobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, League one forever said: You’re adamant that they’re cost cutting, and not telling us. This is despite you me and everyone else being told that the squad needed big changes and was far too big. Do you remember that?? I know you do because you hammer Mellon with the speech where he said it. Or are you getting your famous amnesia again. . We have a smaller squad- because that’s what Mellon wants. We aren’t signing 12 players to replace the 20 because that’s what Mellon wants. For your view to have any credibility you need to substantiate what you’re saying. How is doing exactly what they said they would do - cost cutting? Or is it like I said 15 pages ago, and you just don’t rate players you’ve never seen, in team that hasn’t played a competitive game in a squad that isn’t complete. Profile of player being brought in doesn't compare to last summer. Add in the wages from those that have left this summer and the answer is staring you in the face. Anyway, night all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 So he does sleep then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 26 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Profile of player being brought in doesn't compare to last summer. Add in the wages from those that have left this summer and the answer is staring you in the face. Anyway, night all. Incumbent Player profile is much better this summer than last, and the need to recruit like that isn’t a priority. Players leaving is what the club told you would happen, due to many mistakes under Unsworth. So, as I thought. You’re just making it up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 hours ago, PeteG said: Did anyone else think the idea of a board of professors was a bit strange?? I only know of the stats guy from Reading but got the feeling we are aiming for some kind of education set up which would align with DR past businesses. I'd rather them concentrate their immediate efforts on the pitch for the time being. They have the assets under the same roof and secured the short term future of the club but unless we get back in the EFL asap it will all mean nothing. Never mind that. Why on earth have you right-aligned your post? Makes me itch, layout misuse. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 7 hours ago, League one forever said: Incumbent Player profile is much better this summer than last, and the need to recruit like that isn’t a priority. Players leaving is what the club told you would happen, due to many mistakes under Unsworth. So, as I thought. You’re just making it up again. There isn't a need to recruit proven quality? Blimey, heard it all now... So desperate to disagree you don't even know what you are disagreeing with Anyway, morning all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 8 hours ago, nzlatic said: I’m starting to really struggle differentiating between genuine opinion and those on the wind up. It’s making this board a very difficult read sadly. It's more so re the long replies to the ones that was are wind ups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 hours ago, deyres42 said: There isn't a need to recruit proven quality? Blimey, heard it all now... So desperate to disagree you don't even know what you are disagreeing with Anyway, morning all. Nope, I didn’t say that. You’re making stuff again. I’m not interested in disagreeing with you, that would imply you could make a coherent argument. But alas, you can’t. Your desperation to judge a team that hasn’t played a competitive game and your need to see us fail is just sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 hours ago, Dave_Og said: It's more so re the long replies to the ones that was are wind ups Same posters time and again…..We all know the culprits they need to be ignored! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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