24hoursfromtulsehill Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 23 hours ago, nzlatic said: Ironically, had he passed on that question instead, he probably would have scored more than zero. Honestly...that was my best chance of a point in the next 100 questions. Maybe even the next 1,000. Ask me about art, philosophy, most periods of history, literature, sport more generally, horoscopes, astronomy, physics, chemistry, biology, religion...I'll get seven or eight out of 10. Latics? Nada. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 7 minutes ago, 24hoursfromtulsehill said: Ask me about art, philosophy, most periods of history, literature, sport more generally, horoscopes, astronomy, physics, chemistry, biology, religion...I'll get seven or eight out of 10. Latics? Nada. Cool. What's the best way of getting to Latics on Saturday if part of the M60's shut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 15 hours ago, Dave_Og said: I feel much better now that I know I was chucked out of the modern Oasis WhatsApp group for wondering if the current president was Barry Owen in disguise . Point of order though as my mate who started OASIS back in 1986 was appointed as Life President when he handed over to me in 1989 and he's still alive...! Always up for a pint Will What happened was this: I questioned some of the decisions made by the club hierarchy, to wit: the Atlantic row (unwelcome distraction) and Frank standing with the supporters (it can turn sour very quickly and unexpectedly, which no one wants or needs). A few in the OASIS WhatsApp group pointed out the similarities between my criticisms and the less eloquent ones voiced at the time by Barry Owen. I felt attacked by this, not least because Barry is one of the most hated figures in the history of hated figures. I don't mind an argument or even an ad hominem attack, but Barry Owen? Once is too often, but even after I'd politely asked people to stop it, they carried on as if it was double funny that I was genuinely upset. So that made it double unfunny and ever so slightly irritating, which is considerably more than enough to earn exile status. Quote Point of order though as my mate who started OASIS back in 1986 was appointed as Life President when he handed over to me in 1989 and he's still alive...! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 14 minutes ago, JoeP said: Cool. What's the best way of getting to Latics on Saturday if part of the M60's shut? From where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 14 minutes ago, 24hoursfromtulsehill said: From where? Junction 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 14 minutes ago, JoeP said: Junction 12 Piece of piss. A640 to Denshaw. Pretty sure there are no lights between the junction and the bottom of Huddersfield Road, Newhey. No. Wait. If the motorway is closed, you don't want to be in Newhey. Or Milnrow. A640 to Denshaw, take a left at the crossroads, A672. Take a right at Grains Bar towards Shaw. Then take that left down Grains Road - the aim of the game is to avoid both Newhey and Milnrow if the motorway is fucked. You probably know your way from Shaw, but my tip would be to avoid Shaw Road from the roundabout and head through Heyside and down to Shaw Road End via Salmon Fields. You probably know your way from there, but if you're parking in the Greyhound, you're better off going right into Royton, left down Middleton Road and left again down Holden Fold Lane. My London geography is white hot too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 59 minutes ago, JoeP said: Cool. What's the best way of getting to Latics on Saturday if part of the M60's shut? Use a SatNav like Waze or similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 51 minutes ago, 24hoursfromtulsehill said: What happened was this: I questioned some of the decisions made by the club hierarchy, to wit: the Atlantic row (unwelcome distraction) and Frank standing with the supporters (it can turn sour very quickly and unexpectedly, which no one wants or needs). Wit or not, I make you right. He should not be in with the fans or travelling on booze buses... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 13 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Use a SatNav like Waze or similar Google, Waze don't have the local knowledge necessary for this. There's no way they'd send you the way I suggest. When Joe goes that way, he'll be doing so on an open road because Google and Waze will send everyone else the same way through Newhey and/or Milnrow, both of which will be gridlocked all day if the motorway there is closed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 1 hour ago, JoeP said: Cool. What's the best way of getting to Latics on Saturday if part of the M60's shut? I would set off Friday night and camp out at the Rifle Range, might be advisable to stay until Monday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 1 hour ago, 24hoursfromtulsehill said: What happened was this: I questioned some of the decisions made by the club hierarchy, to wit: the Atlantic row (unwelcome distraction) and Frank standing with the supporters (it can turn sour very quickly and unexpectedly, which no one wants or needs). A few in the OASIS WhatsApp group pointed out the similarities between my criticisms and the less eloquent ones voiced at the time by Barry Owen. I felt attacked by this, not least because Barry is one of the most hated figures in the history of hated figures. I don't mind an argument or even an ad hominem attack, but Barry Owen? Once is too often, but even after I'd politely asked people to stop it, they carried on as if it was double funny that I was genuinely upset. So that made it double unfunny and ever so slightly irritating, which is considerably more than enough to earn exile status. never saw anyone else say it, but heigh ho. All I saw was you saying he should be taking a much less prominent role and then criticising him for being in the middle of the Atlantic when the club was in a tough period. I dare say all were tongue in cheek (and everybody knows how often that can be misinterpreted on any form of social media!) as was my reply but I'm very much . of the opinion that life's too short. For the record I don't think you are Bazza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 4 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: For the record I don't think you are Bazza. Sounds just like something Barry would say... 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 2 minutes ago, Ackey said: Sounds just like something Barry would say... Bazza would say that somebody else wasn't Bazza? I'm Spartacus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 11 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Bazza would say that somebody else wasn't Bazza? I'm Spartacus... That's how they get ya! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 2 hours ago, JoeP said: Cool. What's the best way of getting to Latics on Saturday if part of the M60's shut? If anyone is coming over from the tops / Yorkshire or Saddleworth, Nip through Derker and up past Collyhurst to avoid Oldham Way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: never saw anyone else say it, but heigh ho. All I saw was you saying he should be taking a much less prominent role and then criticising him for being in the middle of the Atlantic when the club was in a tough period. I dare say all were tongue in cheek (and everybody knows how often that can be misinterpreted on any form of social media!) as was my reply but I'm very much . of the opinion that life's too short. For the record I don't think you are Bazza. I wasn't upset because you said you thought I was Bazza. I was upset because you likened my opinions to his when they are different in precisely all the ways that opinions can be different: Bazza and I are not talking to the same people; we are not coming from the same place; and we do not want the same thing. Not even vaguely similar. What would count as a proportionate apology? Something like this: "Your opinions are unlike those of Barry Owen and I am so, so sorry for the offence I blatantly caused by persistently comparing you with one of the most hated people in the history of hate." Something along those lines. Just be careful with the wording is all I'm saying. Maybe start with "Dear Mr President..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 9 minutes ago, 24hoursfromtulsehill said: I wasn't upset because you said you thought I was Bazza. I was upset because you likened my opinions to his when they are different in precisely all the ways that opinions can be different: Bazza and I are not talking to the same people; we are not coming from the same place; and we do not want the same thing. Not even vaguely similar. What would count as a proportionate apology? Something like this: "Your opinions are unlike those of Barry Owen and I am so, so sorry for the offence I blatantly caused by persistently comparing you with one of the most hated people in the history of hate." Something along those lines. Just be careful with the wording is all I'm saying. Maybe start with "Dear Mr President..." As I said, life's too short. Should you wish to be in the corner of society where offence is regularly taken when it is clear none is meant then that is entirely within your rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 7 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: As I said, life's too short. Should you wish to be in the corner of society where offence is regularly taken when it is clear none is meant then that is entirely within your rights. All of a sudden the thread was bathed in the illumination of gaslight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 2 minutes ago, Hemel latic said: All of a sudden the thread was bathed in the illumination of gaslight. It's unbelievable. We've had both "things written are open to interpretation" and "you've taken offence when none was meant". What's next? Am I over-reacting? Do I have an over-active imagination? Am I mentally ill? Honestly. If that pint is ever going to happen, the "Dear Mr President" ball is very much in Dave's court, followed by something like, "I respect and admire how you have rebuilt OASIS from the smoking ruins of my tenure as President, and from the profligate tenures of my friends. You are truly a glorious leader." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 2 minutes ago, 24hoursfromtulsehill said: It's unbelievable. We've had both "things written are open to interpretation" and "you've taken offence when none was meant". What's next? Am I over-reacting? Do I have an over-active imagination? Am I mentally ill? Honestly. If that pint is ever going to happen, the "Dear Mr President" ball is very much in Dave's court, followed by something like, "I respect and admire how you have rebuilt OASIS from the smoking ruins of my tenure as President, and from the profligate tenures of my friends. You are truly a glorious leader." Fight passive aggressive with passive aggressive . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 4 minutes ago, 24hoursfromtulsehill said: It's unbelievable. We've had both "things written are open to interpretation" and "you've taken offence when none was meant". What's next? Am I over-reacting? Do I have an over-active imagination? Am I mentally ill? Honestly. If that pint is ever going to happen, the "Dear Mr President" ball is very much in Dave's court, followed by something like, "I respect and admire how you have rebuilt OASIS from the smoking ruins of my tenure as President, and from the profligate tenures of my friends. You are truly a glorious leader." Ah, but I was never President - I was Chairman in an era where nobody was offended by the suffix of 'man' at the end of Chair... I shall conclude that someone needs to design a much better tongue in cheek emoji than I have ever come across and mandate its use on all forms of social media where participants are remotely likely to become involved in 'banter'. I'm off to watch old episodes of sitcoms that could never be broadcast on terrestrial TV now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 3 hours ago, Lee Sinnott said: Wit or not, I make you right. He should not be in with the fans or travelling on booze buses... Why don’t you agree? If it’s because he shouldn’t put himself at risk. . Ok; as well as being the owner, maybe he’s a just bloke who very obviously enjoys being with the fans- and understands the risk/ reward ratio. As evidenced several times last season. . and it hasn’t stopped him has it?? Maybe he is an intelligent successful man capable of making his own decisions, and not a very naive Fred Dibna Trope. I’d wager he’s just an extremely independent bloke who will do what he wants when he wants. Hear Hear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 10 minutes ago, League one forever said: Why don’t you agree? If it’s because he shouldn’t put himself at risk. . Ok; as well as being the owner, maybe he’s a just bloke who very obviously enjoys being with the fans- and understands the risk/ reward ratio. As evidenced several times last season. . and it hasn’t stopped him has it?? Maybe he is an intelligent successful man capable of making his own decisions, and not a very naive Fred Dibna Trope. I’d wager he’s just an extremely independent bloke who will do what he wants when he wants. Hear Hear. Extremely Independent Bloke, my favourite Blur B-side. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 31 minutes ago, League one forever said: Why don’t you agree? If it’s because he shouldn’t put himself at risk. . Ok; as well as being the owner, maybe he’s a just bloke who very obviously enjoys being with the fans- and understands the risk/ reward ratio. As evidenced several times last season. . and it hasn’t stopped him has it?? Maybe he is an intelligent successful man capable of making his own decisions, and not a very naive Fred Dibna Trope. I’d wager he’s just an extremely independent bloke who will do what he wants when he wants. Hear Hear. You're missing the point by miles here. The point is that you can't go around calling people Barry Owen - even in jest. Call me woke if you want, but some insults are just too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 12 minutes ago, 24hoursfromtulsehill said: You're missing the point by miles here. The point is that you can't go around calling people Barry Owen - even in jest. Call me woke if you want, but some insults are just too much. No. You’re missing the point. I wasn’t talking about you or Barry or being woke. I was asking paddy his opinion on Frank being in a crowd. That’s it. The rest I haven’t a clue what you’re on about. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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